1937 distributor fits and 1946 engine ??

JM 35 Sedan said:
Alan, maybe it's a left coast vs. right coast thing ;) but I have never seen the small diameter adaptor. I think alan from upstatesc has explained the advantage for both of us.
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Ok, I can relate to that. ...And it also looks like right coast farmers use nails where west coast farmers are comfortable using baling wire!
 
Hoop said:
Grumpy, a good start would be to use an engine like the one in the foreground.

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Hoop, you might want to trade heads left for right if you want that engine to look correct in a '37 :)
 
"Hoop, you might want to trade heads left for right if you want that engine to look correct in a '37:)"

Alan, both heads are 77-6050A. I will swap them if you insist.

( ... maybe the Green Bible is wrong.;))
 
On 37's both heads are the same,there is no l+r.They can be swapped side to side. ken ct. Henry made them that way/
 
You can see a cylinder head chart in the green Ford chassis part book,page 228 that shows lefts and rights for some models,naturally the pre 37 ones that had water pump mounts,37's were interchangeable,back to lefts and rights for the first 24 stud ones until the 59A ones which were interchangeable.
 
Hoop, the 77-6050A head was released in May, 1937, and permission granted to NOT drill the passenger side head for the temperature bulb on June 1, 1937. The timing suggests that few if any passenger side "A" heads were drilled at the factory. If you are going for correctness, a drilled head would be questionable.
 
Alan, that's fascinating information. Were there two different heads then, one drilled and one not? And they shared the same part number?

Usually Ford designated the right hand head -6049 if it was different ... I cannot find a 77-6049A. Ford's inventory control must have had some way of managing the two different heads.

I'm not doubting your information, but am puzzled by the lack of any mention in the Green Bible.

( ... not that it matters to me since I have one of those rare, few May 1937 engines.:))
 
Hoop, it was the same part number 77 6050A. Apparently, there would have been two supply lines of heads at the engine assembly, one drilled and one not drilled. This practice continued into the 24 stud production with the 81A 6050A. The 81A 6049A was released in April, without the boss at that location. At some point, the boss again appeared on the RH head, and began being drilled for heater fittings in October 1938.

As there were a number of additional heads for different purposes throughout the period, you can see that the added confusion of the hole drilled or not drilled was a headache that didn't go away. The hole itself was different if for heater fitting or temperature bulb, the latter having an inner boss for the bulb. The bulb was finally redesigned to not require the ledge, but then needed an adapter if fitted to the early hole.

It is these kinds of minor differences that are difficult to understand today until seen in comparison to unrelated developments, where one small change could affect several others.
 
Alan, not that I'm into points judging, but, for reference, is a drilled right-hand head a deduction?

(I don't mind adding an undrilled '37 head to my flea market list, but why do I mostly have heavy stuff on it?)
 
Hoop, as there was a month of productioin in which the head may or may noit have been drilled, and the likelihood of drilled heads being installed on at least some engines both before and after, such an engine rightly should not draw a deduction on the Concourse, but given that judges themselves are not always knowledgeable of every unusual configuration of cars, it would be wise to be prepared to defend the correctness when being judged.

As this thread has taken a turn away from the original question, I'll go further afield with the obaservation that Concourse restorations are generally done in the most recognized of correct configurations purely in an effort to make the judging process go smoothly. This is troubling to historians who would prefer to see all varieties of originality represented. I myself was guilty of perpetuating the practice in my advising Hoop to change out the drilled head. While a smooth Concourse experience is satisfying to all, it does not serve history and does not further educate those who would benefit the most from the display of unusual variations. For this I apologize, but am glad the issue was properly explored for everyone's benefit.
 
Thanks, Alan. I appreciate originality for the sake of preservation not just for competition, but would fully agree that competition serves to document originality.

Great job of supplying information that is not so easy to find.
 
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