1936 Model 67 vs 68 Pickups

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Carbroke

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The more I learn about 1936 pickups the more questions....

I have assumed I had a '36 67-830 model 1/2 ton pickup. But I have never seen on paper what the differences are between the two models of 1/2 pickups. Why two different models? And why can't I see any differences when I look at pics of them on line?

How can one determine this information? They are both pickups, both 1/2 ton, both 112" wheelbase, so how are they different?

And does anyone know of a source of a Body Parts List for them? And don't say to look at the 1935-1936 Body Parts List book for passenger and commercial. They have about 10 parts regarding the tailgate on a single page and that is the extent of coverage they give for the pickups.

I did a search of the forums and came up dry there too.

As usual, HELP!
 
If we were able to buy the Lawson-Jerry '35-'36 Ford Pickup book, that the EFV-8 club sunk like the Titanic, we'd have the answers to questions such as these.
 
Sometimes with Ford literature, you have to put the book down, go get a cup of coffee, splash cold water on your face and come back and take another look. For body parts books deal with a pickup in two places. The cab is dealt with under the 67-810 listing. The cab was used in most commercial applications and was even sold on a chassis without any other sheet metal (drive-a-way). The bed for the pickup is dealt with under it's own section, the 67-830 listing. Combine the 810 and 830 sections and presto..you have the complete package. I'm going back now for a cup of coffee and to splash some water on my face.

Regarding 67 vs 68...There was only the 67 prefix for 1936 pickups...No 68
 
Don Rogers,

I completely agree on the water splashing of face aspect of the old Ford literature. Decoding part numbers from the"Green Bible" is more of a detective endeavor than anything. A lot of times I think I have finally arrived at what should be the part number for something like a generator, and find out later it is something else entirely.

Than you for your guidance on the Body Parts List. I will dive back into it and see if I can divine the information I seek.

All I need is something that shows the fasteners/hardware items for attaching the body pieces back together as original. All of the fasteners I removed either had black paint surrounding the rust, or just rust, and many of them I finally had to just break to get things apart. Once I can figure out which standard part was used, it gets a little easier, but that has been the devil to come up with.

Bob C, you and I read that the same way, but there is a ton of info I have found, including just perusing images on the web, that show a truck as a model 68 pickup...... but Ford has confused me before, so I came here to get the actual scoop on this.

Thanks for the help, guys. It's appreciated.
 
Carbroke, Here is a summary of 1936 commercial and truck body styles from Ford itself. "67" was the only prefix for the 36 pickup. The internet is not always our friend!!
 

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John Gunnell's book Standard Catalog of Light Duty Ford Trucks 1905-2002 is very inaccurate regarding 1935-36 trucks. He uses the prefix "68" instead of "67" quite often and on several occasions refers to photos of 35 trucks as 36 trucks. Other misinformation also.
 
Carbroke, I would get a copy of the big green Bible. It has a comprehensive list of models and the specific part numbers for each. It's what the parts business uses today .I have 33 and 35 Fords and use it regularly. Just sayin.
 
I actually have two copies of much vaunted Green Bible. They give a list of various standard parts with no mention of quantities required, nor any clue as to where it is to be used in the assembly process.

I have a lot of pictures, and probably twice as many labeled plastic bags of hardware removed in the tear down as a lot of guys would have, but once dumped into a bucket of rust remover, it is anybody's guess as to what the original finish was. And a lot of the bolts ended up broken due to rot, corrosion, etc.
 
The so-called green bible is virtually worthless for the purpose you have stated. How could it be given that it was published twelve years after the last '36 was built in the U.S.? It is a catalog of service parts and may or may not contain information regarding the parts that your truck was built with as many items were no longer serviced or have been replaced with 'one-size-fits-all' parts such as shock absorbers, just one example of many. Without chassis and body parts published in the year your truck was produced, you will continue to be disappointed.
 
Carbroke, Here are cover shots of 5 very useful original books that cover 1936 vehicles. The body books cover early and late style vehicles. The chassis books do the same with chassis parts. Often mounting and fastening hardware are listed with finish description. The 1938 Hardware and Trim supply catalogue shows many unique fasteners and trim hardware with descriptions. Some of these books are reproduced and the originals show up on Ebay and other places. You stand a much better chance of getting it right with these resources
 

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Thanks for the info guys. Don, I have 3 of the 5 books you show, but I'll find those I don't have and see what mystical information I am able glean from them.

All your efforts and info are appreciated guys.
 
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