1936 ford pickup rear taillight bracket question

Wehill99

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I have another question for the fellow 36 pickup group.

What is the best way to mount these brackets? I have been looking at pictures and can’t find anything clear.

Let me know what you think looks and works best.

Ed
 

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First, that bracket is not "correct" for the 1935-36 pickup. It was used 1929-34 on pickups and iirc on the 1935-36 1/2 ton flat bed and some other truck applications.


Attached is a photo of our stainless version of the "correct" style. Mack Hils also makes one in mild steel.


The photo shows the mounting to the rear stakepocket top rivets for the rear crossmember. Photo credit is to Ford Archives copied from Mack Hils "Ford Pickups 1932-1952. (I recommend the book for your library).


Karl Wescott
Wescotts Auto
 

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On a reproduction bed, these are the two rivets that you need to grind off to add the taillight bracket shown in Karl Wescotts post

The quickest way to attach the taillight bracket is:
once rivets ground off, use new rivets and weld the ends of the rivets from inside the corner piece from the bottom.
 

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Good advice from Karl and nelsb01. Two guys who know pickups. That's the kind of stuff that would have been included in the ill fated pickup book. Hopefully the "big truck" book will sell well and make the club a lot of money where someone else can abscond with it. LOL
 
Gee Don.................I guess I could have posted that picture of Bruce's 36 pickup tail light...I still have the original photo.
(and lots more)
 
Thanks. I actually have the “simpler” brackets already. The one hole was welded over so that confused me. I removed some paint to find it. This project is like a escape room with many puzzles to be solved.

I had stopped in at Mid West Early ford last week and impulsed bought the stainless ones. So I have them if someone wants them

Thanks.

Another question. I got new rivets for the bed . I need to take it apart some what to wor on it. Has anyone welded in the back of the rivet instead of actually riveting it ?

Sorry for all the questions.
 
I have a question about ford pickup tail lights 35 thru 41. When we use the correct tail light/license plate bracket the bumper completely hides the plate number. Is this correct or am I missing something? Local law enforcement has commented on this in the past (maybe looking for a reason to pull me over) saying it should be legible from a certain distance. Tim
 
I have a question about ford pickup tail lights 35 thru 41. When we use the correct tail light/license plate bracket the bumper completely hides the plate number. Is this correct or am I missing something? Local law enforcement has commented on this in the past (maybe looking for a reason to pull me over) saying it should be legible from a certain distance. Tim

Local law enforcement needs to see the plate to make sure it has the current registration tabs affixed and to be able to call the number in to dispatch if they do a car stop.
 
Just a follow up note. I in no way am talking derogatorily about our law enforcement. I have great respect and praise for the work they do. Tim
 
I have a question about ford pickup tail lights 35 thru 41. When we use the correct tail light/license plate bracket the bumper completely hides the plate number. Is this correct or am I missing something? Local law enforcement has commented on this in the past (maybe looking for a reason to pull me over) saying it should be legible from a certain distance. Tim


Fairly simple answer for 1935... No factory bumper.
There is an offset "1937" bracket that may provide clearance but I have not seen enough applications or photos to be certain. (Mack Hils reproduces the LH only).
Lawton... this is your curtain call!


1938-1941 I have seen several variations of reproduction brackets, and never an original in good enough condition to be confident as to what is "correct". Likely there were two brackets, one for pickups not equipped with a factory bumper, and one for those with a factory installed bumper.
Perhaps Kube can step in with his experience of 1940-41's.
 
With the general de-funding and de-emphasizing of law enforcement these days for fear of offending someone short of murder, license plate readability has probably fallen off the lists of most police forces, along with no tail lights, no brake lights, and one or even no headlights/or failure to use them.
 
Pickups with a rear bumper used a different tail light bracket than pickups without a bumper. 1936-37 with bumper 77-13470, without bumper 50-13470, 1938-47 with
bumper 81Y-13471, without bumper 91C-13471.
 
In Missouri, Pickup trucks are not required to have a rear license plate. Just the front one. This was approved since many pickups are used for towing, which obscures the rear plate. Check your local regulations. You may be able to run with a front plate only.
 
Fairly simple answer for 1935... No factory bumper.
There is an offset "1937" bracket that may provide clearance but I have not seen enough applications or photos to be certain. (Mack Hils reproduces the LH only).
Lawton... this is your curtain call!


1938-1941 I have seen several variations of reproduction brackets, and never an original in good enough condition to be confident as to what is "correct". Likely there were two brackets, one for pickups not equipped with a factory bumper, and one for those with a factory installed bumper.
Perhaps Kube can step in with his experience of 1940-41's.


Karl, I'm presuming that you are asking me, thus my reply. "Lawton" is close enough.

Call me anything EXCEPT LATE FOR SUPPER.

The picture of Bob Engstrom's tail light bracket is correct for 35. I have seen the other brackets pictured but am not conversant with their correct applications.
 
Fairly simple answer for 1935... No factory bumper.
There is an offset "1937" bracket that may provide clearance but I have not seen enough applications or photos to be certain. (Mack Hils reproduces the LH only).
Lawton... this is your curtain call!


1938-1941 I have seen several variations of reproduction brackets, and never an original in good enough condition to be confident as to what is "correct". Likely there were two brackets, one for pickups not equipped with a factory bumper, and one for those with a factory installed bumper.
Perhaps Kube can step in with his experience of 1940-41's.

I can't speak to any other years than '40 / '41. In these years, there were dedicated brackets for trucks with a rear bumper vs. a truck without a rear bumper.
The trucks with, had the bracket fastened to the rearward side of the rearmost bed gusset. For trucks without (bumper) a different bracket was fastened to the foreward side of the gusset.
 

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I have replicated the taillight brackets from an original. I went thru this awhile back on my pickup. I bought an aftermarket pair of brackets and they weren’t correct. I found an original and decided to make a dozen. My pickup originally had one taillight. It was on the drivers side. I’m torn between adding the passenger side light or to keep it as it was originally.
 

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