1934 Ford Pick up
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Charlie Stephens
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Best person to ask is Richard Lacy at earlyv8@aol.com, (626) 338-2282. I think you will end up needing a very thick spacer making the early Ford or Lincoln brakes a better choice.
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Lawson Cox
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You are not "restoring" a 34 Pickup. Sounds like you are modifying one. (grin)
mrtexas
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The answer is no. Yes if you use squareback spindles with 40 wheels.
http://ecihotrodbrakes.com/early_ford_discbrake_conversions.html
I've done it on my 36.
http://ecihotrodbrakes.com/early_ford_discbrake_conversions.html
I've done it on my 36.
deuce lover
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Yes you can and here is picture proof.You will need a 1.25" spacer or adapter with a lip(for support) on the inner edge to support the inner flange of the wire wheel.I understand that Rally America makes that adapter.In this case of the 35 roadster I made my own support ring and glued it to the adapter.By the way these wheels are the rare 15" adjustable Kelseys.
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deuce lover
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Mart,I no longer own the car.It had a aftermarket Mustang II suspension .You can use any disc brake kit sold for various spindles.The most common kit for early Ford spindles uses Camaro calipers w/GM rotors. Speedway Motors has all these kits for various applications.To mount the early Ford wire wheel as well as the Kelsey an adapter is needed as the bolt pattern surface flange is inset.Mac's in NY stocks the support plate which is needed for the Ford wire wheel that mounts to a flat surface.So a 1" spacer or adapter along with that plate and you are good to go.
In 1973 I built a 34 Ford roadster and used 66 Mustang disc brake calipers with 34 spindles.We had to machine an aluminum spacer to adapt the 40 Ford hub to the Mustang rotor and make a bracket for the caliper.I also used 15" Kelsey adjustable spoke wheels on that car.In those days no one made this stuff.Today its much easier .
In 1973 I built a 34 Ford roadster and used 66 Mustang disc brake calipers with 34 spindles.We had to machine an aluminum spacer to adapt the 40 Ford hub to the Mustang rotor and make a bracket for the caliper.I also used 15" Kelsey adjustable spoke wheels on that car.In those days no one made this stuff.Today its much easier .
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deuce lover
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Its fairly basic if you think about it
KH wire wheel needs support in the center … like the hub gave
Disc brakes will be 4 ½ or 4 ¾ bolt pattern
So
You need a adapter to go from 5 on 4 ? to 5 on 5 ½ w a raised center to support the center of the KH rim
You can probably get some thicker ones with the bolt patterns you want and cut the step on the lathe … making them thinner at the same time.
Wheel adapters … just so you all know
You can find them on eBay all day long
They are plenty strong for a street car … in fact offroaders use them all the time.
I run 4 on my CJ5 to space the wheels out 2” … iv gone over the Rubicon trail 3 times w them on ...... no problems.
KH wire wheel needs support in the center … like the hub gave
Disc brakes will be 4 ½ or 4 ¾ bolt pattern
So
You need a adapter to go from 5 on 4 ? to 5 on 5 ½ w a raised center to support the center of the KH rim
You can probably get some thicker ones with the bolt patterns you want and cut the step on the lathe … making them thinner at the same time.
Wheel adapters … just so you all know
You can find them on eBay all day long
They are plenty strong for a street car … in fact offroaders use them all the time.
I run 4 on my CJ5 to space the wheels out 2” … iv gone over the Rubicon trail 3 times w them on ...... no problems.
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PhoenixFear
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There is a kit I believe that Speedway sells that uses F150 disc brakes off an '80s F150.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Complete-Disc-Brake-Kit-1937-48-Ford-5-on-5-1-2-BC,1997.html
You can try piecing it together too if you want by buying the basic Speedway kit, then buying rotors, calipers and the other stuff. It might just be better buying a complete kit though. This way your bolt pattern is matched, 5 on 5.5. However I'm sure you'll still need wheel spacers. I'm probably going this route except I will probably swap some smoothie rims on with radial tires. I love the look of wire rims but want better braking and traction.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Complete-Disc-Brake-Kit-1937-48-Ford-5-on-5-1-2-BC,1997.html
You can try piecing it together too if you want by buying the basic Speedway kit, then buying rotors, calipers and the other stuff. It might just be better buying a complete kit though. This way your bolt pattern is matched, 5 on 5.5. However I'm sure you'll still need wheel spacers. I'm probably going this route except I will probably swap some smoothie rims on with radial tires. I love the look of wire rims but want better braking and traction.
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2ndgeer
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As I mentioned above, I have enjoyed the disc brakes on my '34 pickup for more than 20 years. Here are some pictures of the installation. Super Bell stopped selling the Mustang brakes and replaced them with GM brakes that won't allow K-H or early Ford wheels. Note how the calipers don't interfere with the wheel.
According to Ron Ceridono in Street Rodder Magazine Super Bell may still have the Mustang brake kits...but they don't have the calipers. Since the calipers are the key to a bolt-on assembly you can search for them. After all those Mustang, Comet, Falcon, Fairlane, etc. guys also need to find them.
This kit was an honest "bolt-on" and NO modifications of my '40 Ford spindles was required. The kit came with the 5X5 1/2 bolt pattern. The wheels need a simple aluminum spacer (not an adapter) 1/2 inch thick. No matter how you mount K-H wheels get the 1/8-inch thick brackets supplied by Dave Wilton to prevent cracking due to a lack of internal "bumps' on flat surfaces. The wheel in the photo is a 17 inch stock 34 wheel since replaced by 16 inch KH wheels.
According to Ron Ceridono in Street Rodder Magazine Super Bell may still have the Mustang brake kits...but they don't have the calipers. Since the calipers are the key to a bolt-on assembly you can search for them. After all those Mustang, Comet, Falcon, Fairlane, etc. guys also need to find them.
This kit was an honest "bolt-on" and NO modifications of my '40 Ford spindles was required. The kit came with the 5X5 1/2 bolt pattern. The wheels need a simple aluminum spacer (not an adapter) 1/2 inch thick. No matter how you mount K-H wheels get the 1/8-inch thick brackets supplied by Dave Wilton to prevent cracking due to a lack of internal "bumps' on flat surfaces. The wheel in the photo is a 17 inch stock 34 wheel since replaced by 16 inch KH wheels.
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HOTRODPRIMER
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You might find a lot more information over on the Hamb,,,more modification information over there. HRP