1933 Model B Pedal Assembly

[sacerdos]

The Pedal Assembly springs on my Model B (4 cyl) were nonexistent when I got the huckster. The engine has been rebuilt and I am in the midst of break-in while it is still in the garage. It was straightforward to order some NOS springs from Third Gen. One is a bit longer than the other. For the life of me I cannot figure out how they attach to the frame. I have tried to scour the internet to find a picture of an installed pedal assembly, but no dice. The only picture I can find is one in the reprint Ford Owners Manual for Model B's, but it does not show where the springs attach.

I will try to include a picture of my current set-up.
The spring I have on the clutch is the shorter one, it was supposed to go on the brake, but I don't see how. The spring sitting on the frame is the longer of the two.

There is small hole on the flange of the frame that you would think the V type hook on the spring which would fit into it, but I have spent hours trying. Perhaps someone has a picture of an installed pedal assembly that may help me. All my buddies at the Early V8 club have V8's, which is different. And the Model A guys can't help because their setups are also different.

Hopefully there is a picture of a Model B Assembly.
Thanks.

 

[DavidG]

I'll check my '33 four later this week, but for starters, where you have attached the back of the clutch pedal return spring is not 'as original'.

Except for the clutch release arm on the transmission clutch release shaft and the rod from the clutch pedal to the arm, there is nothing in either the entire brake and clutch setup that is unique to fours (or V8s) including the subject springs and where they attach on the chassis frame.

 

[TerryOH]

The clutch pedal spring is 1.625" O.A.L. of the body of convolutions. LH photo is the brake and RH is the clutch. center photo is comparison of the two springs.

 

[sacerdos]

Thank you for your response.
Regarding the location of the clutch spring on the frame, the photo shows I am guessing. There is a hole in/on the flange of the frame in line with the clevis/type pin that takes one end of the spring. Since I am starting from the beginning, I am wondering what is "origional." I will attach these springs wherever they are supposed to go, but I am just not sure. If the place of attachment is not that hole, is there somewhere else I am not figuring out?
BTW, ditto with the brake spring, which hole do they go into? It may seem simple, but it sure doesn't seem so. Apologies for being so dense.

 

[sacerdos]

Thanks for the spring pictures. I will double check the measurement, but they sure look like the springs I have. The clutch is "longer" than the brake. But that sure makes where they hook onto the frame something I don't understand, considering the existing holes in the frame. If you reference my posted picture, where would each one go? That is what has me tied in knots.
Meanwhile I finished my break-in idleing and tomorrow I retorque the head and change oil. I hope. Thanks again.

 

[deuce lover]

Here are pics from the book for the location of the springs.In your photo the clevis pin on the brake pedal is inserted the wrong way as you can see.