1930 Model A from Canada title question

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Dave27

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So I dont have a title for my 1930 Model A and its from canada all I have are 2 bills of sale from the previous 2 owners and various license plates used through the years including the origonal 1930 canada plates.State patrol said it needs to be inspected when its ready for the road. Then i need a piece of paper from them to take to the DMV then I can get a new title issued in my name. Does that sound correct I live outside of seattle,Wa. area. Any hints,words of wisdom,or things you wish you had done to make this process easier.Also I was wondering if anyone including license plate restorer's want to trade 2 very nice 1930 canadian plates for some Wa. plates. That brings up another question should I keep the origonalsjust for nestalgia reasons and can i look up history or vin numbers from origonal plates.What would you guys do..thanks in advance.....Dave
 
Dave, it's not as scary in WA as it is some places. When they inspect it all they are looking for is that the serial number on the bill of sale and the engine number match. The title will have a "cloud" on it for 3 years, which means that if you want to sell it within 3 years you'll have to "bond" the title. All of that is assuming that when you go to DMV there isn't another car out there that is titled with the same serial number. Contact me if you have any other questions. lrs.overland@icehouse.net
 
Hey Dave.
As far as the plates are concerned I would definitely keep the originals. How cool is it to say you have the first plates that came with the car in 1930. Not too many can say that.. You can always find other plates but once the originals are gone they're gone. Just my opinion fwiw
 
What does your DMV website say is needed. I'll bet if you ask another state patrol officer you may get a different answer. Or visit your closest DMV office. JMO
Paul in CT
 
Here in California, we have independent DMV Services who will take care of all the paper work for you. I have one near me that is connected with a salvage yard and they are authorized to inspect and varify VIN Numbers and get this old stuff straightened out. THEY go to the DMV and get the new plates and registration. They charge for this service BUT it is so much easier then me going directly to DMV. They also will take care of YOM Plates for the old cars.

Does Washington have something simular? If so, you may find it is much easier to go this route.

I would certainly try to get the car titled with the engine numbers that are on the paperwork you have. Often times, a "bought" title will raise other issues.

I would NOT get rid of the original Canadian Plates. This is all part of the history of the car.

My opinion,

Chris
 
Wow thanks guys, I will keep the plates your right its part of the history of the car.I'll do more research and take all your advice....thanks again guys.....Dave
 
Dave27 said:
Wow thanks guys, I will keep the plates your right its part of the history of the car.I'll do more research and take all your advice....thanks again guys.....Dave
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What province in Canada did you get your A from? You should be able to do a license search with the plates to find out who owned the car in the past .It would cost around 20 bucks to do . By the sounds of it you won't need that unless you just want it for your own info . Have fun with the A (eh)
Harry
 
Pepsi Mechanic said:
What province in Canada did you get your A from? You should be able to do a license search with the plates to find out who owned the car in the past .It would cost around 20 bucks to do . By the sounds of it you won't need that unless you just want it for your own info . Have fun with the A (eh)
Harry
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The plates say Ontario 1930.I'm curious how do you do the search,is there a websie.
 
Dave,

The Province of Ontario has a YOM (year of manufacture) program which allows resident applicants to register old unrestored plates to their antique vehicle. The numbers must be "live" in order to register.

You might consider trading or selling those Ontario plates where they could be put to good use.

Number check can be made at the Ontario MOT: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/

Also see the following: http://www.yomplates.ca/
 
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I think I want to keep them.Rusty Homestead makes a good point. I dont think many people out there have the origonal plates their A rolled off the assembly line with in 1930,but thats just my opinion I have nothing to back it up. Also arnt most of us going for origonality one with origonal plates is more origonal then one without in my opinion. I also think it would add alittle more value to the car if it was ever sold,not that mine will ever go anywhere :) The plates it has are in very nice unrestored condition,might be fun to bolt them on for car shows then remove them when I leave.Not sure I may have to play it out a bit and see how it goes...Love all the input though....Thankyou....Dave
 
Dave27 said:
...State patrol said it needs to be inspected when its ready for the road. Then i need a piece of paper from them to take to the DMV then I can get a new title issued in my name..Dave
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Dave, I wouldn't spend a penny or a minute on a car until I had some kind of document from the DMV stating that the car is legally mine. I've known and heard of too many situations where people invested heavily in a project they were unable to register when the time came.

Having title and having it ready for the road are two separate issues.

Register it, or get a "Title Only", or whatever works in WA., then start working on it.

Joe
 
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To late for that its allready on the dowhill slide and will be assembled soon.If I have to I'll get a trip permit everytime or like another person suggested just buy a title.Either way it will be on the road this year.

JoeWay said:
Dave, I wouldn't spend a penny or a nickel on a car until I had some kind of document from the DMV stating that the car is legally mine. I've known and heard of too many situations where people invested heavily in a project they were unable to register when the time came.

Having title and having it ready for the road are two separate issues.

Register it, or get a "Title Only", or whatever works in WA., then start working on it.

Joe
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A trap many are caught in is with taxes. The vehicle will likely be taxed at the value at time of registration. Title/registration before restoration places the value as low as possible. Taxes, valuation and title requirements vary greatly for different states so it pays to do your research. Nothing better than experience so contact Larry Seeman and accept his offer of help.
 
Thankyou for the info I will definatly take larry up on that as I have never done this befor.....Thankyou....Dave

Jerry Parr WI said:
A trap many are caught in is with taxes. The vehicle will likely be taxed at the value at time of registration. Title/registration before restoration places the value as low as possible. Taxes, valuation and title requirements vary greatly for different states so it pays to do your research. Nothing better than experience so contact Larry Seeman and accept his offer of help.
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