pooch
Well-known member
That is an easy answer.
Depends on how fast you are working.
Shops always go direct to metal cause it is faster. The shops also are putting paint on the same day and will protect the metal.
If you are working slow the epoxy first may be better as the metal is now protected.
Best I can find the best adhesion comes from laying epoxy down first then bondo on during the recoat window when the surface is still 'open'. The is after a talk with the owner of SPI and a discussion of how the products work.
From what I have gathered people often sand with the wrong grit paper for the product they are using. With proper sanding or other means to make the correct rough surface either product will adhere quite tightly to the surface. My favorite is the ones who think 40 grit is best. It has too few scratch per inch which means more flat areas the bondo can not grab onto. It is best to use the high grit that is recommended for more scratch per inch.
Both products will not cure at the surface if it is acid. So use acid products with great care as the surface must be neutralized or it will not be sticking at the surface.
The above comments are based in facts, not opinion, as best I could dig them up over the years. So feel free to go look it up for yourself.
I KNOW the facts.
I don't have to look them up, I have been laying filler on bare metal for decades and will continue to do so.
I don't need any biased opinions from paint sellers that tell you to lay bondo over their product just to sell you more.
I can never figure when some lay epoxy down then filler, then how do they ever feather the filler without digging the edge of the epoxy.
You have two materials of different hardness .
I have been blasting off material for decades and have never seen rust under filler, that was not an obvious lousy filler/repair job in the first place.
This site sums it all up....
http://www.autobodystore.com/filler_&_epoxy.shtml
But it is your car and you can do anything you want with it, but let the OP decide what he wants himself by reading the FACTS, not having stuff rammed at him just because someone does that themselves , and has not gone the extra mile like this guy has to prove his methods .