Can't locate timing pin hole

ped58

ped58

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It's been a year since my "A" has been running so I tried to stat it today, but the only thing it did was backfire through the carb.
I thought it might be the timing. but I can't find the timing pin hole.
I have been rocking the car in 3rd gear back and forth and I can't find it
I had no trouble locating it last year. "help"......
 
ped58,

I am assuming that your know where the Timing Pin is located, but having trouble finding the Indent in the Cam Gear?

Darryl in Fairbanks
 
I can only find the timing indent if I know that I'm approximately in the right place to start with! I reckon the quickest way I can find TDC is to slacken No 1 spark plug a bit then paint a bit of soapy water around it and watch the bubble expand to maximum on the compression stroke.
However the timing won't have moved since last year unless it's been fiddled with!
Often just cleaning the points and fresh fuel sorts thing out
 
If your car was running when you put it away last I would check the timing only after I checked the fuel system and did a compression check to see if the gas deteriorated and stuck things up in the carb or valves. Backfire through the carb points to a sticking/burnt intake valve in my book.
 
Sometimes I have to watch the pin, it will drop into the detent and you can not feel it, but you can observe it.

Darryl
 
ck the basics first spark/fuel. common problem for no spark is to clean and reset the points. they oxidize from sitting
 
If you still want to find it, I don't think rocking the car is the best way to do it--the timing gear will move too far and too fast. Try removing the plugs to eliminate compression and use the crank
 
stuck intake valve, run a compression check to find witch one or ones, get a bolt the same length and size of timing pin, grind a sharp point on it helps to find shallow indentations,
 
ped58 said:
It's been a year since my "A" has been running so I tried to stat it today, but the only thing it did was backfire through the carb.
I thought it might be the timing. but I can't find the timing pin hole.
I have been rocking the car in 3rd gear back and forth and I can't find it
I had no trouble locating it last year. "help"......
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no.1 piston up remove timing pin and with a small mirror facing the hole shine flash light on mirror move around till you can see in the hole. just another way. to see indentation.
 
Take the cap off the body and watch the rotor. When it's coming around to point at the right front fender/ number one contact while using the hand crank start feeling for the detente with a pointed object. Clean the points and check the compression first.
Don't forget to put the timing pin back in!
If you go past it just reach up and turn the fan while holding the belt tight turning the engine back then turn the fan the correct way to take the slack out of the gears and try again.
 
Hold the pin in FIRMLY & FEEL & WATCH it, as someone else turns the crank, EVER SO SLOWLY. If you pass it, put it in high, push the car back, slightly, & crank up to it AGAIN.
Enlighten me, WHY, everytime a car "farts" or something, why do most folks want to check the compression or re-check the timing??? By the way, how often have you seen a burned INTAKE valve??
If you even "think" you have a SERIOUS valve problem, leave the key off & give the starter a looooong crank & listen for a constant, smooth cranking sound, like "R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R not an, "R-R-WUP-R-R-R-WUP-R-R-R-WUP-R-R-R--That's an Okie Compression Test!
Bill W. (While audiably (sp?) tryin' to make these sounds, Buster T. LEFT THE ROOM!)
 
Post#16---If I heeded EVERY dire warning in the Ford Barn, I'd be DEATHLY afraid to even get near my engine! Have you ever PINCHED yourself with them little LETHAL Snap-On Ignition Pliers (YOWEEEE! ) or them EXTRA sharp test lights, with a CORK on the probe? CORKS don't conduct electricity well??? Just ask Tom W.
Bill W.
 
Don't ask me............When I was in grade school I used to stick my finger in light sockets to show my brothers there was electricity there.:eek:

Good thing I didn't grow up in Germany........they use twice the voltage.
 
BILL WILLIAMSON said:
Hold the pin in FIRMLY & FEEL & WATCH it, as someone else turns the crank, EVER SO SLOWLY. If you pass it, put it in high, push the car back, slightly, & crank up to it AGAIN.
Enlighten me, WHY, everytime a car "farts" or something, why do most folks want to check the compression or re-check the timing??? By the way, how often have you seen a burned INTAKE valve??
If you even "think" you have a SERIOUS valve problem, leave the key off & give the starter a looooong crank & listen for a constant, smooth cranking sound, like "R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R not an, "R-R-WUP-R-R-R-WUP-R-R-R-WUP-R-R-R--That's an Okie Compression Test!
Bill W. (While audiably (sp?) tryin' to make these sounds, Buster T. LEFT THE ROOM!)
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yea im with the others saying fuel blockage, stuck float, or weak/poor spark. timing doesnt change sitting in a garage but fuel and debris in it can cause issues just sitting and dirty points can cause issues.
 
BILL WILLIAMSON said:
Post#16---If I heeded EVERY dire warning in the Ford Barn, I'd be DEATHLY afraid to even get near my engine! Have you ever PINCHED yourself with them little LETHAL Snap-On Ignition Pliers (YOWEEEE! ) or them EXTRA sharp test lights, with a CORK on the probe? CORKS don't conduct electricity well??? Just ask Tom W.
Bill W.
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dad no more testlight jabs we use these on a power probe;)
 

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