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jkelsh

jkelsh

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If you have have a car with out a title is it legal to purchase a clear, free title and register the car with that? Thanks
 
I don't think it is legal any where to buy a title that has nothing to do with the car you have and use it to title a car.

Here is a thread about titles look down a way and Illinois is mentioned.

TITLES
 
jkelish, You already asked about titling in Illinois and I gave you the straight dope answer. Read it.Your 9/15 thread Now you're looking for a way to illegally title a motor vehicle. I live in Illinois, and you get NO sympathy from me. It is actions like that that have made it extremely difficult for the rest of us. If you do obtain a bogus title and attempt to register the vehicle in Illinois I hope you get arrested, convicted and the vehicle confiscated and forfeited to the state. Do the right thing, apply for a new Illinois bonded title.
 
Somewhere along the line you are going to have to lie to connect the title to the car and that is probably one thing you will get prosecuted on if you are cought. It will probably go down hill from there. I tend to side with MikeK. You need to remember the easier it is for an honest person (which I assume you are) to register a car the easier it is for a crook to register a stolen car.

Charlie Stephens
 
Same answer as I posted to your original question, contact the DMV OR you could try registering it in NH or Maine, believe it can be done thru the mail, then you would get a title. JMO
Paul in CT
 
jkelsh said:
@ MikeK- Does a bill of sale count as a certified appraisal Thanks
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In a word, No. I'm going to p.m. you the name and phone number of an Illinois friend who has 22 Model A's plus other vehicles. He is currently battling the state legally. This is following the revocation of many titles, legal hearings, and the state now going after the appraisals he used to obtain the required bonded titles. They now rejected the appraisals, rendering the new bonded titles the state issued questionable. Ask him about the Oldsmobile collector who had the state (Illinois) declare three of his curved dash antiques "Off-road use only".
 
I will never understand people who are too damn lazy or stupid to take the time to get a correct title for their vehicle. :(
 
I don't believe that the issue is related to stolen cars--that's a smokescreen for what they're really after.

I believe that this is related to the fact that Illinois and other states are strapped for cash. That's just a fact, it's not political--Illinois is one of the states with the highest per-capita debt load, the highest level of unfunded obligations, and the most negative tax revenue growth. Another is California, where I live.

And how do you raise money if you're a cash-strapped state? By any means possible. This means things like re-examining titles for any possible irregularities so you can collect another round of money when they're re-bonded. It means stepping up enforcement of anything that has a fine associated with it. Expect this to get worse as the economy remains in decline.

Other government entities in similar situations are likely to pursue similar policies. I know for a fact that the local municipality has stepped up enforcement on all kinds of minor things to increase cash-flow.

Just a sign of the times.
 
Bill of Sale, Surity Bond and a VIN Verifiacion inspection is all it took here in Nebraska. Not the cheapest proccess, but legal and affective. Counting gas, postage and phone calls it was about $180. Rod
 
You don't actually put up $50,000 or whatever the price is,you pay for the bonding company to stand behind you.To have my repair plate I needed a $50,000 bond.It was $156.the first year,then about $100,then dropped to about $60.per year after that. N.H.does not do out-of-state registrations,you need a residence here to do it.We are non-title after 15 years,and law enforcement is pretty careful about impounding car for little reason.Suspicion is not a good reason to take your car,as it has to be returned to you in the same condition it was in if it is not stolen.They don't want to haul it,store it,and haul it back because of some little detail.Then again,there is no tax involved here,the only fee to register an antique is $6. to the town and $6. to the state.There is no incentive to nitpick on antiques here.It pays the state the same for a Duesenberg as it does for an A.If there is suspicion of something off,(other than out and out stolen) they will pull your plates until settled.
 
keith: awful lot of cars in CT (my town) reg in NH. Don't know how they do it but if I go into the projects there are many.
Paul in CT
 
When someone asks me how to get a car titled I say "Do what you have to do but don't tell me about it". I've had some close calls with titles but so far "knock on wood or something" they are all still legal. At least till Texas comes looking for more money anyhow.

Kerby
 
Paul,You're right,there are a lot of cars that get registered out of state.If you have a friend,a sister,any relative with a home address you can use you may get away with it for a long time.And,the further away from the border you are the better chance you have of getting away with it.You can even be legal if you register it in their name.A DOT officer told me it is quite common in what you call the projects,as you do not need insurance to register in N.H.I always found I had to do my homework before trying to register something.Phone calls to the DMV mean nothing.You will get 5 different answers from 5 different people.You need to read the book.NOT online.Some laws that were passed 2 years ago have not been updated into the websites.Mass is extremely guilty of this.
 
1931 flamingo said:
Same answer as I posted to your original question, contact the DMV OR you could try registering it in NH or Maine, believe it can be done thru the mail, then you would get a title. JMO
Paul in CT
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As a resident of the State of Maine, I have to ask you...

What are you talking about?
 
The title is referenced to the vehicle by the VIN (vehicle identification number). In the case of the Model A it is the engine number. If you buy a title and place that number on the engine block you are in essence committing a crime. You can go to the DMV and request a title search on the number and try registering it as a lost title.
 
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