Canadian vs US Car

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usered

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I saw an earlier thread about there not being a data plate, just the holes on the Canadian cars, are there other differences between the Canadian and US cars?
 
My 29 has Robinson screws in the trim piece that goes across the body just under the windshield. ( I think there is a better name for this but it escapes me now ) I have been told that the car is a Canadian model as it came from far northern Maine. It does not have a date stamped on the gas tank under the hood on the drivers side like my friend's 29 roadster. I wonder, are there other clues to it being a Canadian car ? The engine is definitely US and it is a very late ( March 1937 ) stamping. Thanks for your thoughts on this. Bill
 
A friend brought three cars down from Canada in the mid 70's,all for hot rods.I wound up with two of the frames.Neither of them had a number stamped on them.These were very clean,original paint,never restored,unmolested frames.The serial numbers were not stamped on them.I still have one under one of my cars,there is still no number on it.
 
I bought a Canadian assembled 29 phaeton several years ago. About half the screws were Robertson head and the other half slotted. I suspect some of the car was assembled in the US, probably Detroit and shipped to Canada for final assembly where Robertson head screws were used, which could explain why some screws were slotted and some Robertson head. The data plate was missing on the firewall of the gas tank, but the 4 mounting holes were on the left side (drivers side) unlike US built cars where it is on the right side (passenger side).
Rusty Nelson
 
Here is mine 29 Tudor .
 

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usered said:
I saw an earlier thread about there not being a data plate, just the holes on the Canadian cars, are there other differences between the Canadian and US cars?
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Farrell In Vancouver said:
I am pretty sure Canuck cars came with data plates too, Eh.......
The Model Ehs.......also had Robinson screws,..Eh.
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RG & JS section for Canadian Model A’s page F-2 Area 1.

Initially the patent data plate was attached to the right side of the firewall, but at times it was located on the left side. From late 1928 through 1931 patent data plates were not used, even though holes were drilled in the firewall. Vehicles assembled in Canada with bodies manufactured in the United States may have USA data plates.
 
The two Canadian cars I had had Robertson screws fastening the metal to the wood on the inside.
 
I have a early 1928 phaeton. The engine has a Canadian serial number. The rear engine mounts are the cast ones that I have been told are Canadian. Holes for the data plate are on the drivers side. The holes are clean and flat and don't look like they've ever been used. After 85 years, I make no claims as to "as built". Stan
 
Basically, Canadian cars had a block cast in Ontario, plus many other Canadian supplied parts but they were not 100% Canadian. Essentially they were assembled in Canada or at an Overseas Canadian subsidiary company [ eg. Ford Australia etc.]
Robertson screws are always mentioned, but Ford Australia did not use them in their production.
Re data plates, Canada only used them in 1928, but the holes are always there as the tanks & firewalls were probably made in Detroit. Just about every restored Canadian car now has a repro plate fitted unless the owner has done his research.
The paint & interiors were sometimes different to Ford US as Ford Canada had a degree of independence from Detroit.
They were sold new with 5 tires [ no spare in US] plus no extra cost for bumpers etc.
 
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Flatout, you state that your car had a Canadian serial number, does that mean you can identify a Canada car by the serial number? If so how?
 
usered said:
Flatout, you state that your car had a Canadian serial number, does that mean you can identify a Canada car by the serial number? If so how?
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RG & JS Canadian Model A's page F-2 Area 1

Engine numbers for Canadian engines start with a "CA" series and then a three letter designation CAQ, CAW, CAR, CAT, CAY, CAU, CAI, CAO, CAP, CAS, and CAD.
 
notice that the serial numbers are the C plus the top row of the typewriter keyboard. also check my site for some more pictures
 
I have an early 1931 Canadian tudor sedan with 64K actual miles and all original paint, some pinstripe, and no rust ever. It has Robertson head screws on everything on the body- dash, moldings, door hinges, door handles, etc. I have never looked at the Patent plate. I will look at it tonight. Great running driving car with original Ford maroon and black. Only thing not original is the interior. Some idiot took out the original interior and installed a new Interior. I still am looking for original interior to put in it.

Steve Becker
Denver,CO
 
160B said:
RG & JS Canadian Model A's page F-2 Area 1

Engine numbers for Canadian engines start with a "CA" series and then a three letter designation CAQ, CAW, CAE, CAR, CAT, CAY, CAU, CAI, CAO, CAP, CAS, and CAD.
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Almost all publications, including the Judging Standards, that I have seen have a misprint and does not include CAE. As was noted in an earlier post, look at the top left of your keyboard, E comes after W and before R.

My 1930 Canadian Standard Phaeton is CAT, the sister car that is here in Fairbanks is CAE.

Also, for some reason the front door hinge screws on my Phaeton are Robertson, however the rear screws are Standard Flat Blade. Go figure.

Darryl in Fairbanks
 
I read somewhere that the Canadian radiator badge is black rather than blue. The reason I ask is that I have a black badge on my roadster that I bought at a swap meat years ago.
 
Canadian Ford Radiator Emblem.

My avatar is an example of the 1930 only Canadian Emblem. By 1930 the enamel had been eliminated and it appears to be Nickle Plated brass or bronze.
There is a higher quality photo in my photo album of the emblem in my avatar.

http://fordbarn.com/forum/album.php?albumid=894&pictureid=8659

The Earlier Enamel emblems were a very dark Blue, near Black, in Color for Canadian Models. At least the originals that I have seen.

Darryl in Fairbanks
 
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