It’s Alive (& Dry!)

[Charles Reese]

It’s Alive (& Dry!)

Thanks to everyone for their tips earlier on my first start up. The ATV sealant and Vaseline on clamps worked as advertised. Now in process of run/torque/run/torque. I’m using an original asbestos core head gasket and am amazed how loose the nuts get after each warm session. The info I have suggests three torque sessions (35/45/55 ft lbs) but I think its going to take many more than that to get’er tight.

Suggestions on getting to the head nuts that are under the distributor body (maybe a crow-foot extension on 3/8” torque wrench)?

Thanks again everyone ...

 

[Joe K]

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http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/4326

I did pretty well with a crowsfoot as you mentioned. If you put it "off to the side" it doesn't affect the torque reading.

Joe K

 

[Razkid]

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Most Model A supply houses sell a special adapter wrench to get to those nuts.

 

[Razkid]

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Joe K- You submitted while I typed! That's what I was telling him about! Next time I'll type faster!

 

[Joe K]

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Not matter. It's a pretty pricey tool at 30 plus shipping. Crows-feet are a LOT cheaper - although more liable to slip off.

Joe K

 

[Mitch//pa]

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use a crows foot line wrench it wont slip

 

[Joe K]

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use a crows foot line wrench it wont slip

This took me a second to find but I can see it will work better than my standard crows-feet.

Called a line wrench as it is similar to the wrenches used to tighten compression/flare nuts (brake lines) without stripping them.

Thank you!

Joe K

 

[Mitch//pa]

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joe i have a set of 6 point crows line wrenches

 

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

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http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/4326

I did pretty well with a crowsfoot as you mentioned. If you put it "off to the side" it doesn't affect the torque reading.

Joe K

Joe, Somebody posted awhile back, that if you didn't have this wrench aligned with the SUN, or the MOON, or the NORTH or SOUTH pole, or the NORTH star, or somekind of silliness like that, that it could adversely affect the torque reading!! PSHAW!!
Bill W.

 

[Marvin/TN]

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It shouldn't affect the torque in anyway. The applied torque is in line with the nut or bolt, no difference in the leverage.

 

[Mitch//pa]

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this is a 18mm 6 point line crows 3/8 drive with a 3/8 to 1/2 adapter.. works well

 

[d.j. moordigian]

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this is a 18mm 6 point line crows 3/8 drive with a 3/8 to 1/2 adapter.. works well

If you use the crows foot, you need to do the math to correct the torque
wrench reading......to achieve the 55 pounds.

 

[1931 flamingo]

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I personally don't think it's going to make a big difference in the torque reading using Mitch's wrench. Many, many, many thousands of head gaskets over the years have successfully been replaced with out a torque wrench. FWIW
Paul in CT

 

[wrndln]

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I think all you have to do, if you are concerned about what Dudley mentioned - compensating for the crow's foot is to use the crow's foot on an easily accessable nut that has been torqued with the straight torque wrench and socket. Just see what the crow's foot reads on the torque wrench after torquing it straight and tighten the nut to that amount for the nut under the distributor.
Rusty Nelson

 

[Mitch//pa]

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I think all you have to do, if you are concerned about what Dudley mentioned - compensating for the crow's foot is to use the crow's foot on an easily accessable nut that has been torqued with the straight torque wrench and socket. Just see what the crow's foot reads on the torque wrench after torquing it straight and tighten the nut to that amount for the nut under the distributor.
Rusty Nelson

i am using a freshly calibrated click style torque wrench. the addition of the crows foot is a non issue as that nut took the same as the rest today cold. if there is a difference it is so minuet that it is not noticeable less than a lb maybe a tenth of a pound

 

[CarlG]

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I use this wrench: (photo courtesy of Ford Garage) It's a genuine SnapOn wrench.
(I have several of these that I would be willing to part with -- send PM)

 

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

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I personally don't think it's going to make a big difference in the torque reading using Mitch's wrench. Many, many, many thousands of head gaskets over the years have successfully been replaced with out a torque wrench. FWIW
Paul in CT

I ponder this: Wonder how many head gaskets were replaced two or three times, maybe, without torque wrenchs, or an accurate straight edge to check head flatness, or lack of access to machine shops, or lack of knowledge of torqueing sequence? Like, "HEY! Rufus, she's still leakin' out the back corner, git that cheeter pipe & tighten them 2 nuts sum more"!!!
Chief told me, "YEP! sometimes them thick old asbestos filled head gaskets would actually take up the slack for uneveness and actually hold the water in"!! Bill W.

 

[d.j. moordigian]

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Well.....Charles is anal, as well as some others on this Forum. Also Snap-On
printed 3 pages worth of info, which they think is important.

 

[Mitch//pa]

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dudley what you posted with the long offsets, does not apply to carl g's setup or mine

 

[wrndln]

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Mitch,
Why, may I ask does Dudley's post not apply? It sure looks like it does to me! What is your reason it doesn't.
Rusty Nelson