MARC MAFCA Merge

MARC/MAFCA merger - - - When Hell Freezes!

I joined MARC and the Penn-Ohio Region of MARC, at age 16, in 1955.

There's a comment about merger "Some People Need To Die." Given my age when joining MARC, I'm rather sure that most, if not all the folks that were members of MARC back in 1955 have died!

Attracting younger members. Go to any "open" car show or cruise-in. Look around. Who do you see with the various cars on display? They are not the "young" folks. It takes $$$$$ to build/modify/restore an old car. Young folks just don't have those $$$$. The correctly restored cars plus all the various modified hot rods, street rods, lead-sleds, etc. are owned by older individuals that have the money to indulge in the hobby. Any young folks are showing up with late model Mustangs, Challengers, Camaros, and the little "tunner" cars. This younger generation can get loans to purchase these cars, add a few chrome items, and show their vehicles. They are able to use the vehicles for daily transportation and still wipe them off and feel good about showing the car. Not much challenge in that.

To Del in NE Ohio. Any of these names ring a bell? Chet Mott, Dick Frank, Earl Parks, Doug Spencer, Cliff Froelich, Herb Denzer, to name a few. How many of these members are still alive? I have copies of "A" Quail Call, the Penn-Ohio news letter from the late nineteen fifties.

We don't need a merger. Attracting new members comes about when club's display their cars at meets or when on tour. An organization like MARC can't be all things to all people. If MARC doesn't meet your "needs" then look for and join an organization more to your liking.
 
JD Miller said:
MARC/MAFCA merger - - - When Hell Freezes!

I joined MARC and the Penn-Ohio Region of MARC, at age 16, in 1955.

There's a comment about merger "Some People Need To Die." Given my age when joining MARC, I'm rather sure that most, if not all the folks that were members of MARC back in 1955 have died!
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:confused: I realize I'm not the "sharpest knife in the drawer", but if you joined and were a MARC member in 1955, --and you are "rather sure" that all folks who were MARC members in 1955 have died, ...are you 'dead' too?? :rolleyes:

Wouldn't being a member in 1955 ...and still alive today confirm that all members from 1955 are not dead yet??? :eek: :D

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Perhaps we need a THIRD club.
Oh! MAMA (Organized heap of Model A Malcontents and Arguers).

Mission: To preserve controversy about Model A’s
Membership: Open to anybody who has a ’63 Plymouth, ‘cause some of the scrap iron that made it came from Model A’s. Also open to anybody that has a 20d nail, for the same reason.
Rules: Have an opinion. If you have an ‘agenda’ you are immediately on the BOD.
Monthly magazine: We suggest you go to the newsstand and pick one that complements the décor of your throne room.
Annual Convention: We will schedule one when everyone comes to agreement.

Special Interest Groups (SIG’s):
JERKS (Joint Entourage of Restorers, Know-it-alls, and Scrappers)
GOOFS (Generally Obnoxious and Opinionated Ford Supporters)
NUTS (Non-involved, Uninformed Theory Staters)

 
MikeK,

You sure that one does not exist? I am pretty sure I have met some of the guys in those special interest groups!
 
Brent,

We are closer on this discussion than you realize.

I DO NOT advocate changing the "mission statement" of either club. NEITHER national club requires ownership of a Model A to be a member, only the interest in preserving and restoration of the Model A.

Both clubs are coping with the controversy by allowing SIG such as F.A.S.T., back on the farm, hubleys, ad collectors etc. It is actually working rather well. To repeat myself, they DO NOT sponsor FAST events but allow them to preface a national meet with a hill climb.

As in religion, the goal is perfection yet we know an tolerate the fact that we are each a work in process, hopefully aimed at that "goal".

I DO NOT agree with your assesment that the majority of cars owned and driven by FAST members are far outside the "mission statement" of the national clubs. Most of us drive pretty stock looking cars. Some participate in the hill climbs and others watch.

I have never heard of acceptance of out and out hot rods in either the national clubs or chapters. There are, however, pinto engines, mercruiser engines, 4 speed, 5 speed trans and overdrives galore.

It is interesting that the pictures you posted are of highly modified cars, most likely not driven regularly if at all on the street. Each is very much a period or vintage speedster which would have been right at home in the Model A era. No V8's, no engines newer than 1934.

You liked my "man on the street" and "discrete modifications"comments. Thank You. As I say, we are closer than you realized.

The public is exposed to the Model A on the street, far from home, in their everyday, familier neighborhoods or on the interstates . I loved the comment of one person while we were on the road to Vancouver. It is wonderful to see these old cars "on the road".
My reply, "It's even better to be driving them".

Without modifications I wouldn't take long trips. it would be unsafe to drive 40-45 mph on interstate hwy's, freeways and toll roads.

Richard
Anaheim CA
 
Richard, Im with you, Now if you still want that tinney be in NZ April 14th - 22nd for the NZ national meet ( Tour ) Hosted by the NZ "Rebel A,s " or should that be the" NZ Rebel A Restorers" ??? If you ain,t having fun change your club. You only get out of a club what you put in, www.modelafordclub.co.nz 2011 meet.
 
Unfortunately the merge will probably not happen in our lifetime. There's just too much property and money involved, not to mention the inflated egos of all those current national board members. If we want it to happen we will first need a smart lawyer to convince the current powers that be that this is a good idea. Then he would have to help us disolve 2 corporations and form a new one. Do we think it would be worth the cost?

If we do nothing, the question may resolve itself. Given the declining interest in Model As, in the future, both clubs may not be able to financially sustain themselves and might have to merge to stay alive. The question is which one will go first.
 
We will first need a smart lawyer to convince the current powers that be that this is a good idea. Then he would have to help us disolve 2 corporations and form a new one.

Glenn,

I'm reminded of an old jewish proverb.

Two men argued over the ownership of a cow.
One pulled at the head while the other pulled at the tail while
a lawyer milked the cow.

See you in Hangtown tomorrow.

Richard
Anaheim CA
 
Lawyers are not needed to determine if it is a good idea. The Directors should study the issue, draft a proposal for a vote of members and let the members decide.

Lawyers would need to be involved in drafting legal documents involved in any Corporate changes.
 
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