Steve Ciccalone
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Mike, I'd love to see those Hen photos. I have that riders wanted ad as well. Super X was introduced in 1925.
Original roadster @ convention
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peters180a/170b
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Very nice ....the quail [is it orginial?] I have n.o.s. door straps for it...
FL&WVMIKE
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Steve Ciccalone .............................
I have three different HENDERSON original real photo postcards pictured here. I have a studio, cabinet photo of one somewhere. I can't find it right off. It might be up in W. Va. It is super quality and larger. I'll have to get it to you later.
I thought that I would let everybody see these.
MIKE
I have three different HENDERSON original real photo postcards pictured here. I have a studio, cabinet photo of one somewhere. I can't find it right off. It might be up in W. Va. It is super quality and larger. I'll have to get it to you later.
I thought that I would let everybody see these.
MIKE
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Steve Ciccalone
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Mike I know we're getting off topic and people are probably going to ***** but the two long skinny Hens are 1914 models, 66" wheelbase. The top center photo is a '16 with the "short" 58" wheelbase. The hen in front of the shop is flanked by two Indians, a twin and single cylinder, single speed bikes. I'm guessing they are '13 or 14 low end models as they have rigid frames. In '13 Indian top of the line models had a cradle frame rear suspension that was carried through until 1922. Rigid frames were also used for export models. Great photos, thanks for sharing. The guys on the AMCA web forum would like to see these.
Hi.
What is a car like this worth? My friend just picked up a 30 roadster needing about the same amount of work to do a complete restorating.
His car is not as original as this car is because it has been repainted and has a B block motor. The body and fenders have no rust thru and the fenders have never needed splits welded. The bumpers still have good chrome. The only origenal parts missing are shocks, shock arms and links. It runs and drives and he paid somthing less than $10,000. The top is in better condition but was replaced 8 or 10 years ago. Do not know if this was a good or bad buy. I am interested in your throughts
John W., Houston, Texas,
What is a car like this worth? My friend just picked up a 30 roadster needing about the same amount of work to do a complete restorating.
His car is not as original as this car is because it has been repainted and has a B block motor. The body and fenders have no rust thru and the fenders have never needed splits welded. The bumpers still have good chrome. The only origenal parts missing are shocks, shock arms and links. It runs and drives and he paid somthing less than $10,000. The top is in better condition but was replaced 8 or 10 years ago. Do not know if this was a good or bad buy. I am interested in your throughts
John W., Houston, Texas,
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Here is an unretored 29 roadster, that was found recently near San Diego, great patina, it runs and drives. It's for sale if you are interested please send me an email at a34fordman@verizon.net
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BRENT in 10-uh-C
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John, there is a saying "that it is ALL in the details". I think your friend's car falls into this category. There are SO many little details that you look at to tell if it has been "molested" or messed with over the years. What I feel affects the value of a car like your friend's car is knowing about those details and verifying they are indeed original, --and not a 1950's era replacement. Being a skeptic by nature, when you say the engine is a 'B', and shocks/hardware are missing, etc., I start wondering if the engine pans are still there, if the radiator is original, is the terminal box complete, are the bolts original or did they substitute fasteners when they did the swap. You mentioned the top has been changed, is the tack strip the correct one or did they exchange it for wood? How about the top hardware? Often times to the unversed, these items might really look similar ...however unauthentic.
By you saying that your friend paid less than $10k, I guess he is happy with his price and that is what truly matters. Based on your knowledge of the car, do you feel he got a bargain or paid top-dollar?
(I might add that a car that runs & drives is of no consequence to me because the babbitt could be worn out and the crankshaft turned .040 undersized. Since it has a 'B' block, it also could be full of cracks internally placing the value of this engine at almost nothing. Just my opinion though.)
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Steve Ciccalone
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Hi Josh, some people would call it high dollar WD40. It does four things, it cleans, lubricates, inhibits (kills) rust and protects the surface from further corrosion. Its well worth its price. It doesn't harm original paint and when it kills the rust, it brings up paint not previously visible. I'm not a dealer, just an addicted user. I'm posting a photo of a line up of four original paint mc's, three Hendersons and a '39 Indian. All have Gibbs on them now. The bike in the foreground, a '26 Hen, was in a damp basement from 1929 to 1984. The roadster in the background is A189.
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Jerry Parr WI
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I agree an unrestored vehicle makes such a great reference it's a shame to lose them. You got them reversed Ron. The early does extend to the bottom of the bead, the late does not.
lt propery was changed
dlshady
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Gibbs is the greatest thing since sliced bread! In addition to all of the great qualities that Steve noted it also does wonders for porcelain license plates. Not only does it protect but it brings out the gloss nicely. Now if I could only find another local source for it because nobody around here carries it anymore.
Back to the original topic, I seem to recall an unrestored standard roadster for sale on fleaBay a year or two back, possibly somewhere in the northeast. Does anybody know if this is the same car?
Deron
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Steve Plucker
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Yes, I am going to *****...I am BITCHING because I do not have one!
Hope to see them this fall Steve!
Pluck
Tudortomnz
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Here is another '30 roadster 'unrestored'. Very early '30 Canadian, notice '29 style bumpers & it has 'eyebrow' front fenders.
It was at 2007 MAFCA Meet, Christchurch, New Zealand. It ran, a bit noisy in timing gear & the water pump a'drippin', but it drew a lot of attention. Was going to be left 'as is' & certainly appeared to be mostly original.
Tom
It was at 2007 MAFCA Meet, Christchurch, New Zealand. It ran, a bit noisy in timing gear & the water pump a'drippin', but it drew a lot of attention. Was going to be left 'as is' & certainly appeared to be mostly original.
Tom
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Greg way out West
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Hi guy's,
Maybe It's me,,What's the deal with a original car that look's like crap and need's to be "Restored" ? I can see if one want's to see how they were from the factory...take some picture's and go from there...
Transferring this logic to my modern car which is in need of a paint job and look's like crap...I guess I can say it's original !!!! BTW is this what's called "Shabby Shiek" ????..
To me it's a "old A that need's fixing up ? Please enlighting me ??
Greg out West,
FL&WVMIKE
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Steve Ciccalone ........................
Is this first m/c photo, of a HENDERSON ?
And, is this the same sign that you have ?
The rest of my m/c photos with an "X" on the tank are EXCELSIOR. I have a bunch of them !
I also have a '29 "A" roadster, just like yours. You can see it on page 63, in the 3rd page as #53 in the "A" Section. It is under "Let's See Before and After Pictures". When I restored it, the thing to do, was to "deluxe" them up. Plus, I found a pair of welled fenders, cheap.
I promise to not post any more motorcycle "stuff" here. But, it was a continuance of our conversation.
MIKE
Is this first m/c photo, of a HENDERSON ?
And, is this the same sign that you have ?
The rest of my m/c photos with an "X" on the tank are EXCELSIOR. I have a bunch of them !
I also have a '29 "A" roadster, just like yours. You can see it on page 63, in the 3rd page as #53 in the "A" Section. It is under "Let's See Before and After Pictures". When I restored it, the thing to do, was to "deluxe" them up. Plus, I found a pair of welled fenders, cheap.
I promise to not post any more motorcycle "stuff" here. But, it was a continuance of our conversation.
MIKE
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Steve Ciccalone
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Mike this is an '18 or '19 electric model. Note the generator mounted on the front cover driven off the cam gear.