non detergent oil

And you never will! All this is a bunch of hooey but, if you want to run krap oil then go ahead and use non detergent. This junk is what caused early overhead valve motors to have rockers that you couldn't find for the gunk.
 
I remember my grandfather yelling about how detergent oil ruined his car.It was a 60 Falcon,and when I took the valve cover off the sludge stood up all on it's own.The valve cover acted like a jello mold.It had been making some noise,and he only had some detergent oil to dump in it.The fact that the engine had been junk for a year had nothing to do with it.It was those two quarts of detergent he was forced to use.The only reason he did use the detergent was because he had run it completely out of oil and had to get home.He said that running it out of oil had nothing to do with it,he had done that dozens of times.It had to be that detergent oil.A few years ago I ordered a barrel of oil to be delivered.They dropped it,and when I wheeled it inside I found it was not 15-40 Rotella,that I'd ordered,but a drum of 40 weight non-detergent.I called them and they were concerned that I might have used some.I told them I had caught it in time and the new barrel was intact.I wheeled it back out and the next day there was a new barrel next to the one going back.When I called them about taking it back they said,we thought you had a waste oil furnace.They didn't even want it back.That was nearly a month's heat for me.
 
i have been in the auto repair for 45 years, have owned a model a, 1950 willys, flathead fords ,also over the years different lifter noise, oil consumpsion, with my customers on any car or truck, i learned from a very good old time mechanic that a product called rislone is the best for any engine to clean and lube,this has been on the market since @ 1920 it is used in replacement of one qt. of oil, as it cleans sludge it desolves it, its like adding detergent to your washing machine, best product ive ever used
 
Dog:cool: here,
To save a LOT of time, why don't y'all jist ask the car or the engine, "What type/brand/weight/detergent/or non-detergent oil do you want, HONEY BUN"? Buster T.:D
 
SteveM said:
It's interesting that he says the myth started because old cars that used non-detergent oil suffered ACTUAL damage SPECIFICALLY caused by using detergent oil.

That doesn't sound like a myth to me.

Steve
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Steve, Bear in mind that we had just gone through WW2 and all it's shortages. I don't imagine that many cars saw many oil changes during that period.Those engines were doomed because of the war. Just to illustrate this point, I've seen directions for building your own oil still and reclaiming your old oil. How many bothered with this? So most engines had a period of 4-5 years with very few, if any oil changes.
Terry
 
Terry, During WWll At Chief's Conoco gas station, he supplied free used oil from a barrel with a faucet & a handy filler can for those who couldn't afford NEW oil. Bill W.
 

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I remember buying oil for my first ford it was in glass bottles at the pumps have no idea what kind of oil was that bottle all i knew it was cheap 25 or 50 cents a qt. can't remember i think it was refiltered oil from drain oil
 
fordcoupe said:
I remember buying oil for my first ford it was in glass bottles at the pumps have no idea what kind of oil was that bottle all i knew it was cheap 25 or 50 cents a qt. can't remember i think it was refiltered oil from drain oil
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Chief said it was common to use the Re-Refined oil, along with a quart of Rislone to "make" it like a detergent oil. He said it kept the engine internals very clean. Bill W.
 
1931 flamingo said:
Mike: Do you realize how many different answers that is??
Paul in CT
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It's the same personal preferences. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against those that ask. It is an important question to those that want to be sure they have long life to their engines and don't knoe the answer. It's just that it comes up so often and the anwsers are all personal preferences.
 
Keith True said:
I remember my grandfather yelling about how detergent oil ruined his car.It was a 60 Falcon,and when I took the valve cover off the sludge stood up all on it's own.The valve cover acted like a jello mold.It had been making some noise,and he only had some detergent oil to dump in it.The fact that the engine had been junk for a year had nothing to do with it.It was those two quarts of detergent he was forced to use.The only reason he did use the detergent was because he had run it completely out of oil and had to get home.He said that running it out of oil had nothing to do with it,he had done that dozens of times.It had to be that detergent oil.A few years ago I ordered a barrel of oil to be delivered.They dropped it,and when I wheeled it inside I found it was not 15-40 Rotella,that I'd ordered,but a drum of 40 weight non-detergent.I called them and they were concerned that I might have used some.I told them I had caught it in time and the new barrel was intact.I wheeled it back out and the next day there was a new barrel next to the one going back.When I called them about taking it back they said,we thought you had a waste oil furnace.They didn't even want it back.That was nearly a month's heat for me.
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Love it! Thanks for sharing, Keith. New anecdotes keep even repetitious threads fresh.

Steve
 
BILL WILLIAMSON said:
Terry, During WWll At Chief's Conoco gas station, he supplied free used oil from a barrel with a faucet & a handy filler can for those who couldn't afford NEW oil. Bill W.
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Bill, How many of those engines did you open up? What did you find inside? Ten Lbs of sludge! People are concerned about it breaking up. I'm here to tell you that this stuff doesn't break up. I put fuel oil with MMO in my model A (Remember those days) and it was still solid after a week. It came out but there was lotsa sludge left, it didn't break up. People who like their engines clean (like me) will use HD oil and get the gunk out of the engines.
Terry
 
fordcoupe said:
I remember buying oil for my first ford it was in glass bottles at the pumps have no idea what kind of oil was that bottle all i knew it was cheap 25 or 50 cents a qt. can't remember i think it was refiltered oil from drain oil
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It was $.25 I know because new Wolf's Head or Fox Head (?) cost $12 a case that was 24 paper cans. or $.50 a can.
Terry
 
fordcoupe said:
I remember buying oil for my first ford it was in glass bottles at the pumps have no idea what kind of oil was that bottle all i knew it was cheap 25 or 50 cents a qt. can't remember i think it was refiltered oil from drain oil
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They called it bulk oil. it looked like honey and sold for fifteen cents per quart and was sold here at the Golden Eagle and the Kayo gas stations in the early to mid sixties. I used the bulk oil in my september 29 strip down model A. It must have been pretty good, i've still got the same model A after 53 years but now use Walmart brand 20w50.
 
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