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32Gnu

32Gnu

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Found an 8ba motor this weekend for the 32.. question is...

What will I need to hook it up to my original trans, 59a set up?

I assume I will need a different starter, a bellhousing, clutch and pressure plate.. anything else?

Thanks in advance.
 
32Gnu said:
Found an 8ba motor this weekend for the 32.. question is...

What will I need to hook it up to my original trans, 59a set up?

I assume I will need a different starter, a bellhousing, clutch and pressure plate.. anything else?

Thanks in advance.
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If your transmission is 1939-48 you can use the bellhousing and starter plate from a 49-51 mercury car. Your 8BA will also need a rear sump oil pan. I used a 49-51 Merc oil pan, but early Ford pick up will work too. As I recall I used the 49-51 Merc clutch, flywheel and pressure plate BUT I think your 8BA stuff will also work. You can still use the 8BA starter and i believe the 59A starter will also work. You may need to make other changes that I am not aware off as I installed my 8BA in a 40 ford coupe, not a '32.
I bet the 1932 folks can provide more info.
 
If it is an original 1932 trans there may be clutch clearance problems in the trans bell area. he 36 & later top loaders have more clearance there. 19Fordy covered most of the clutch & bell housing related possibilities for the 8BA swap. The only other clutch options require drilling the 8BA flywheel for the early 9 or 10 inch clutches.
 
Looks like I will need different water pumps also.. if I am to use the original style water pumps..

How is the best way to ID the transmission?
 
32Gnu said:
Looks like I will need different water pumps also.. if I am to use the original style water pumps..

How is the best way to ID the transmission?
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Check the serial number stamped on it and look in a Motor's manual to see what year it is. Obvioulsy the water pumps are totally different than the 32.
 
The number stamped on the trans is 18-5063844

any help to ID is appreciated.

I spoke to the guy the motor came from and he still has the bellhousing, flywheel and cover..

I just need now to know if the flywheel/pressure plate will space out right..
 
You need '48 to '53 pickup or truck water pumps. they have longer mounts and you can also use a pickup 3speed light duty trans bell housing ('48-51 pickup stamped or Merc cast).
The starters are all the same 32 through '53 V8 and 6.
Stay away from '48 & '49 truck water pumps. They had a bushing instead of ball bearings or rollers and are difficult to get kits for.
 
The transmission is a 39. You will need the 1/2 bellhousing from a late truck engine (cast) or 49 - 50 Merc (stamped steel), a flywheel from a late engine, a pressure plate to match as well as a clutch disc to fit the 39 trans.
 
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fitting a 8BA in a 32 using stock locations for the firewall and grill shell can be alittle tricky. the longer pulley shafts and the cranks double pulley take up to much room. youll need to go to a single belt system using the 32-38 generator mounted fan.


bellow are 2 examples though both are in model as. one gentleman just welded the fan onto the generator pulley, and the other example the guy machined the larger OD armature of a 12v generator to fit the smaller ID of the 32-38 pulley. he then added a spacer on the back to seat the pulley against the bearings.
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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=865486&d=1263076904


i addressed this by buying these two parts from speedway and will need a .5 tall spacer on the back.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Flathead-Alternator-Pulley-with-Fan-Mount,8946.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Alternator-Fans,720.html
 
32Gnu said:
The number stamped on the trans is 18-5063844

any help to ID is appreciated.

I spoke to the guy the motor came from and he still has the bellhousing, flywheel and cover..

I just need now to know if the flywheel/pressure plate will space out right..
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Get the starter plate , flywheel and bellhousing from seller as they are always
good to have and are getting harder to find.
 
Hi,

What clutch and pilot bearing work with the 8BA to 39 trans?

I will be using a 8RT truck bellhousing/starter plate.

Thanks for any info!
 
Last night I picked up the bellhousing, starter/cover plate, clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel..

I want to make sure I get this right the first time here. so I am not in the same shape as another post..

I need to replace the pressure plate and disc, the disc I have is a 10" is this the right setup for the 1951 8ba engine and the 1939 ******?

I appreciate any help you can give me here..

Heres a pic... Multi million dollar company and cant find a ruler or tape measure.. 8.5x11 sheet of paper...
 

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Some pick-ups 48-52 (light duty 3-speed) and I believe some other special applications like ambulance and police cars may have a 10 inch Long type clutch that has 1 3/8 size 10-spline input. The key is that it has the 8BA flywheel drilled for the 10-inch pressure plate. I do believe the clutch disk and cover are compatible with the 46 through 48 59A 10-inch type set ups.

I don't see these flywheels around too often. Most Ford 8BA passenger cars had the 9 1/2 inch Long type with the 1" 10-spline input. In F1 pick ups from 48 to 52 it's a flip of the coin as to which clutch they will have since they started changing transmission stuff in 51 & 52.

Kerby
 
I just bolted up the flywheel, bellhousing, 10" pressure plate and disk..

I measured the trans edge to the throwout bearing and the engine bellhousing to the fingers on the pressure plate and it looks as if the engine needs to be spaced away from the transmission roughly 3/8 of an inch...

What am I missing? who should I call? Dick Spadaro?
 
If you use a '28-'48 pilot bearing , an 8RT bellhousing and a '28-'48 clutch disc and pressure plate i am sure it will all go together nicely, providing you use the '48-'51 pickup water pumps.
But, you have to use the 10 inch clutch if the flywheel is drilled for a 10 inch pressure plate.
If the heads are 8RT then the engine is most likely from a truck or pickup. In that case you will not need much of the stuff mentioned.
 
The motor is in and it all lined up..

It really helps having this site to lean on for information. I used to be able to pick up the phone and call my dad when he was alive and get his input on my issues.

I appreciate all your guys help.. Tom
 
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