Wood Patterns

Classiccanuck

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Does anyone know where I can get wood patterns for a 1928 Phaeton? I would like to get the wood kit patterns for the inside and the body block patterns too, can anyone help me out? I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.
 
Grain-it technologies sells a kit, or will do the graining for you, using the technique as when the car was originally built. http://woodgraining.com/

Edit: sorry, in re-reading your post, I realize you may mean the wood STRUCTURAL elements, not the woodgraining! Can't help you there!
 
Does anyone know where I can get wood patterns for a 1928 Phaeton? I would like to get the wood kit patterns for the inside and the body block patterns too, can anyone help me out? I would greatly appreciate your thoughts.

Here are a few that might be of help to you:

WOOD
1. www.fordwood.com Ford Wood
2.www.modela-modelt.com Pleasentville Manufacturing and SS Industries
3. No known website: Wagon Works (515) 964-5085 (Iowa)
4. No known website: Classic Wood Manufacturing (336) 691-1344 (North Carolina)

BODY PLANS AND BLUEPRINTS
1. http://members.aol.com/wagonwork2 Wagon Works
2.www.motormayhem.net/mode-a-fo...pecifications Motor Mayhem
3.www.coachbuilt.com

6. www.TheHenryFord.org Benson Ford Research Center (Michigan)


Pluck
 
If you are patient with the Benson Ford Resesrch Center I believe they will provide a copy of the prints Henry used. (If they exist) Sometimes they get pretty busy and can take a while for them to locate the information you are looking for. The fees that are charged I found to be reasonable considering most of the information they furnish comes from the original Ford blueprints.
Thanks Ed, I'll look into that.
 
Here are a few that might be of help to you:

WOOD
1. www.fordwood.com Ford Wood
2.www.modela-modelt.com Pleasentville Manufacturing and SS Industries
3. No known website: Wagon Works (515) 964-5085 (Iowa)
4. No known website: Classic Wood Manufacturing (336) 691-1344 (North Carolina)

BODY PLANS AND BLUEPRINTS
1. http://members.aol.com/wagonwork2 Wagon Works
2.www.motormayhem.net/mode-a-fo...pecifications Motor Mayhem
3.www.coachbuilt.com

6. www.TheHenryFord.org Benson Ford Research Center (Michigan)


Pluck
Thanks for you help!
 
There is a problem with phaeton wood kits. I bought a kit made by Classsic Wood in NC. The problem is that Ford steam bent the wood around the top rear of the back panel and rear part of the quarterpanels (also Ford did the same for the front seat back, however there is no seam to be concerned about on the front metal panel). Ford made two pieces of steam bent trim for the rear panel with the joint in the center. I am pretty sure Ford did this to support the seam between the quarterpanels and the rear panel where there would be a weaker spot at the two joints. The Classic Wood kit, and I suspect other available wood kits (Cubel's), are made using three pieces, with the joint at the seam between the quarterpanels and rear panel. I believe the reason is that it is easier to do it the questionable way than do it correctly like Ford originally did. However, in the old days, model A's took much more abuse on cruddy roads than they ever would now-a-days, so using the three piece beltrail many not cause any problems. However, I plan to make my own wood for the rear of my 29 phaeton, either by steam bending the wood like Ford did or laminating thin strips together using two pieces of wood. It will be a few months until I get to that part of my restoration. The wood kit for the phaeton is small compared to the wood kit I installed in my 28 special coupe - just a note.
Rusty Nelson
 
There is a problem with phaeton wood kits. I bought a kit made by Classsic Wood in NC. The problem is that Ford steam bent the wood around the top rear of the back panel and rear part of the quarterpanels (also Ford did the same for the front seat back, however there is no seam to be concerned about on the front metal panel). Ford made two pieces of steam bent trim for the rear panel with the joint in the center. I am pretty sure Ford did this to support the seam between the quarterpanels and the rear panel where there would be a weaker spot at the two joints. The Classic Wood kit, and I suspect other available wood kits (Cubel's), are made using three pieces, with the joint at the seam between the quarterpanels and rear panel. I believe the reason is that it is easier to do it the questionable way than do it correctly like Ford originally did. However, in the old days, model A's took much more abuse on cruddy roads than they ever would now-a-days, so using the three piece beltrail many not cause any problems. However, I plan to make my own wood for the rear of my 29 phaeton, either by steam bending the wood like Ford did or laminating thin strips together using two pieces of wood. It will be a few months until I get to that part of my restoration. The wood kit for the phaeton is small compared to the wood kit I installed in my 28 special coupe - just a note.
Rusty Nelson

Rusty, you have hit on something we noticed several years ago. I am of the opinion that it is not that it is more difficult to make (which it is) but that it deals more with boxing & shipping, ...and what the consumer is willing to pay.

IMO Steve Cannon makes a great 'kit', ---but sometimes we are the ones that become too critical!! If you go to Lowes and purchase a Storage Building "kit", they will deliver a bundle of 2x4s and some hardware. No one gets upset when those 2x4s need to be cut to length or fastened together. The same should apply with body wood. Mr. Cannon can make the wood in whatever manner some one asks him to do however the price is likely indicative of what that person is requesting him to do.
 
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