So you want original rad hoses?

peters180a/170b said:
First if you read the JUDGING STANDARDS they will state... NONE HAD SCRIPT IMPRINT..I too must be on the sick list... I paid $200.00 for a pair of nice n.o.s. lower radiator hoses... If people remember right back 3 years ago i posted a wanted ad for 30/31 top radiator hose before French Lick to prove a point.. $500.00 for a nice useable hose and there was no sellers.My point at the time was people keep passing the same hoses around to friends showing their car at a National meet. This is why they should allow a good reproduction hose for show.. Anyway another few years no one will care oneway or another!
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Pete, I wont even pass my hoses between MY TWO cars !!..:eek::eek:
 
Jim Mason, been a long time we spoke.... In the shop today we were talking "LIONEL TRAINS" and setting them up this week for Christmas. US old timers [57-60...l.o.l.:p] do not see the young caring about our old trains that we had since we were kids. The train shops are mostly gone[thanks to on line shopping too]..No more going in and looking around before you buy something you don't need.Same with the cars... and its parts. FRED... i feel the same way I DO NOT HAVE ANY PARTS ON MY CAR AT ANY TIME that belongs to someone else.But i am glad the scoring of 480 that you can now receive a Henry Ford award so,, ORIGINAL HOSES are not a issue. with 20 point lead way.:D
 
FL&WVMIKE, I drool over the picture you posted! It reminds me of the complete box of NOS lower hoses I bought at Hershey a few years back for $20.00 (enough hoses for 8 cars!)
 
Gary Karr said:
FL&WVMIKE, I drool over the picture you posted! It reminds me of the complete box of NOS lower hoses I bought at Hershey a few years back for $20.00 (enough hoses for 8 cars!)
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GARY KARR ......................
I, too, bought mine at Hershey. It is a full box of four, enough for four cars. I, also, think that I paid $20.00 for them. I think I remember there being more of them on the table. Now, for me, this was in the late 60s or early 70s.
Perhaps, we bought them at the same time and place.
MIKE :)
 
I guess $20.00 a box you gotta be old enough in this hobby.:eek:.. Late 60's i was not driving yet.:D.. l.o.l. Early 70's i did more PARKING then driving.:rolleyes:
 
I paid $20 for a box last year. Enough for one car. Said something to the effect "Look just like originals." They work great!
 
Peters 180A: Amato's hobby shop in downtown new britain and downtown Middletown, CT still has operating lay outs in store and this is the season.
Paul in CT
 
peters180a/170b said:
I guess $20.00 a box you gotta be old enough in this hobby.:eek:.. Late 60's i was not driving yet.:D.. l.o.l. Early 70's i did more PARKING then driving.:rolleyes:
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Pete, I was old enough, But the only thing I was driving @ the time was a Bulldozer in Da Nang V.N. I asked if I could get leave to go the Hershey & they put me in a bunker with an M-60...Fred..:mad::mad:
 
Gary Karr said:
I love it! I'm one of the "sick" individuals that will pay for NOS rubber parts. I have a set of original NOS hoses on my Tudor and they are fine as long as I don't mess with them.
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Not to mention that i too am one and pretty happy with being of those sick one's that big BIG Bucks for my Original 29 AND 31 Radiator Hoses, and my original Steering Column anti rattle strip,,, They are REAL and they are stunning and it was well worth it to me to pay the TOP Dollar for the Points. So please don't classify "SICK" and crazy about anyone if that is what they choose to collect and use.. I learned a long time ago, "Dont Count Anyone's Money" It gets you No where FAST!!!
 
Could some list these 13 or 14 "Must Have NOS Parts"? Knowing what they are and the fact there is a market will make me walk slower and look closer at flea markets.
Jim Mason said:
The standards don't allow or dis-allow anything except the 13 mandatory items (i'm at work, is it 13 or 14). Just don't expect full points for repop. <p>I don't know about passing parts around for show. I have most of the parts I want to use for fine point and I won't be borrowing any. If i find them, i find them. If not..meh. In a few years I will still care....fwiw,jm
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Jim, it is 14

Roadster62, The "must have NOS parts" is not what Jim was referring to. If you have
a complete Model A, you probable have most. The top 6 are............
1. Four cylinder Model A engine and drive train.
2. Engine mounts
3. Carburetor (Holly, Zenith or Ford)
4. Mechanical brake system
5. Horn
6. Steel spoke wheels

I'm tired of typing,....were are my 28-29 hoses.

Get the Judging Standards, it's cheap($25 I think) lots of GOOD info.
 
Interesting to someone maybe...I took these pictures for a previous discussion.
Note how the stripe isn't painted... it's actually a thin layer of "coloured rubber".
I picked these up from various sources over the years.
Although they're hard as wood, I ran hot water into the sink and soaked them a few minutes and they became quite pliable.
..........they even slip onto a water neck OK.

I wonder if that stripe had some significance in the manufacturing process?
 

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dj has it right. There are no 'required nos parts' only requirements for fine point judging. Besides the 6 he wrote, there are original type electrical system (lamps, generator, starter and battery located under the floor), original type two blade fan ( a long way from the original propeller style, two blade metal fan I proposed at a MAFCA JSC)j, original style top and upholstery material for year and model of vehicle,original type steel sheet metal (no fiberglass), original type exterior paint color and stripe pattern for the vehicle, original type tires-correct size for year of vehicle, original type metal valve stems and covers, original type shock absorbers, arms and tubular links. Not difficult to get into fine point at all.
I'd love to have and i'm still looking for a 28 battery, useable fan belt [i have a 31 belt that i will use if i have to,if i can get it soft enough], 8 1/2inch door check strap, better wiring and a few other things but if i never find them that's ok too. I'm building this for me, not for the points. I'll have it judged just to see how I did... or not...haven't decided yet.
I don't want the standards changed to allow full points for repop anything. That wouldn't be fair to those who sought and found the original parts. Just because I can't find them, doesn't mean I should get points for repop.

stand·ard

   [stan-derd] Show IPA
noun 1. something considered by an authority or by general consent as a basis of comparison; an approved model.


aptly named 'Judging standards'. The vehicle will be judged to the standard.
 
I agree with Jim. I also seek out the best original parts (within my price range) and may or may not have my car judged some day.
 
Tom,

Do not wait like I did; I was 82 and decided if I was ever going to enter a car in fine point judging I had better do it before I started pushing up dasies, and it sure was gratifying !!! Why I never entered one of the previous 4 I have restored from the ground up since 1962 probable was the fear of not doing well. It is a wonderful experience that a restorer will never feel unless he enters his A at a National Meet.

Ron
 
Well said Jim. I agree that repeo wiring and hoses, etc should not get full points in fine point judging. This may end up being a battle that we will loose. Ron, what a wonderful showing you did in San Diego this summer at the MARC National Meet. Your E-28 is outstanding and was a real asset to th meet. Can't wait to see what you'll you do next!
 
" then how does one draw the line as to which reproduction parts are eligible for full credit and which are not for fine pint judging purposes?"

Good question Tim.

And the answer is?
 
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