APPLE GREEN Wheel UPDATE

How much luck have the painters here have with the matching of colors that web sites like auto color library (TCP Global) and APS tower paint?
 
"Although they are few and far between, good color mixers can do better by eye with many of our colors."

true. I had color matched by eye for a replacement gas tank on our Coupe. black is not just black, it comes in many variations, and a guy at the supplier matched it perfect......
 
Mike V. Florida said:
How much luck have the painters here have with the matching of colors that web sites like auto color library (TCP Global) and APS tower paint?
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Kevin Fehr had some Lombard blue provided by them and it was way off. It was the typical old flawed formula with too much red tint making it lean toward Andalusite. In some lighting you can see "purple" which is not the case with Lombard blue.
 
To add to Marco and TCP Global.

The paint they mixed up did not look right and had a failure. I kept getting little white specks in the paint. Now I am not a good painter and I thought it was me.


Then I brought in an experienced painter. In his 30 years of painting he only saw these specks once. It was traced back to a bad tint or too much tint (I forget which). I had to repaint everything.

I am not saying TCP Global is bad. I did not have a good experience. Just relating what my experience was with the company.

I ended up with the PPG version of Lombard Blue. I made the mistake of assuming they knew what they are doing. The formula had a little bit of white in it. Big mistake. If anyone is doing Lombard with Concept try it first without the white tint. My color came out a bit light for a true Lombard.

Money, time and the lack of need for perfect stopped me from pursuing it further.
 
I don't understand something...

Haven't the paint formulas for all Model A colors been calculated a hundred times over? So why "take another guess at it?"

I'm sure every paint formula for every manufacturer for every Model A color are known to MAFCA and MARC.

Why aren't the paint formulas printed in the MAFCA "Paint and Finish Guide" along with the paint chips?
 
newshirt said:
I don't understand something...

Haven't the paint formulas for all Model A colors been calculated a hundred times over? So why "take another guess at it?"

I'm sure every paint formula for every manufacturer for every Model A color are known to MAFCA and MARC.

Why aren't the paint formulas printed in the MAFCA "Paint and Finish Guide" along with the paint chips?
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The problem is simple. Formulas do not accurately cross over from one type of paint to another. Many of the Ditzler colors went down the tubes when they converted them from nitrocellulose lacquer to acrylic lacquer nearly fifty years ago. Since then the problems have been repeated through several lines of paint. Due to the ever changing EPA requirements don't expect this problem to go away anytime soon!
 
I just want to thank all of you that have taken the time to post the formulas you have found to be correct. I guess I was just looking for a short cut to same save time and money by assuming certain companies would have the correct colors for a car that is in such numbers.

Anyone have the nearly correct code for Maroon for a '31 Vicky?
 
jhowes said:
I don't know how the rest of you know but i am guessing that the one on the left is the apple green.
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Mark,

Jasons post with the large picture was in response to jhowes where he though the picture on the left of your post labled #13 was apple green on the left. He took your labled picture and just posted it in a larger size do to the fact that the one in post 13 was so small as to not being able to read. jhowes missed that he could have clicked on the small picture in your first post to make it larger.

I don't think he meant anything but to help.
 
I too want to repaint my rims in Apple Green. I simply can not justify spending $300-500 for a gallon of Ford paint. One blog suggested that a 1970's VW Hippie Green was close. Either my rims are painted wrong or it doesn't match. After almost giving up, I stumbled across a Rust-oleum spray can at Wal-Mart. It is a match--at least to my rims. The color listed on the bar code is "250705 GLS FERN". The can cost $3.77. Hope this helps someone else.
 
The new apple green to me looks much better.The sage green that passed for apple green should be called barf green in my opinion!
 
Here's my 32 with apple green per the PPG DCC paint type, converted from laquer in the Ford repaint manual. I'm very happy with this color.
 
I have no idea if these wheels are "Apple Green" or not. That's just what color they were when I bought them.
 

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Ken Ehrenhofer said:
This paint was formulated in Concept.
We used the PPG Phrophet System and took a reading from the chip in the MAFCA paint guide.
So the formula we used is #45951

but in order to get the the correct color info you need:
SKU DESC INC. (PART)
DMC900 STR WHITE 101.6
DMC928 YELLOW 2757.5
DMC919 YELLOW LF 409.8
DMC902 BLACK 38.6
DMC923 BLUE 13.9
DMC937 GREEN 85.5
DMC984 CLEAR 1035.6
Any questions,
Ken
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Ken,
Since Town Sedans likely came with black wheel and (I think I read this somewhere) the red or blue or green was applied by the dealer, what do you think would happen to the tone of green if a local guy sprayed "Apple" over the existing black? Would that darken the color?
 
Jewels said:
I too want to repaint my rims in Apple Green. I simply can not justify spending $300-500 for a gallon of Ford paint. One blog suggested that a 1970's VW Hippie Green was close. Either my rims are painted wrong or it doesn't match. After almost giving up, I stumbled across a Rust-oleum spray can at Wal-Mart. It is a match--at least to my rims. The color listed on the bar code is "250705 GLS FERN". The can cost $3.77. Hope this helps someone else.
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I took a sample of the Rustoleum Paint to a local Model A Collector, who also paints cars for a living. He couldn't believe that a can of paint at Wal-Mart would be Henry's Apple Green. He he pulled the official Model A Paint Chips. He is now a believer. $3.97 a can...need I say more!
 
Comparing a color chip and a spray out card is not comparing apples and apples. Color chips, while they may be close, are ink and not paint and are not always the same. But the color does look way better than the first color, close enough to suit me.
 
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