1932 pedal plate ID?????

jim1932

jim1932

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OK...YES I read the book....

The Plate onthe left in the photo came of my original looking floorboard. It is 2 1/2" by 9 1/2" (I repainted it recently). When I thought I did not have the bottom plate I bought the plate on the right in the photo (Obviously modified).

Questions: The plate on the left, I do not find in the book....is this an "A" part? The plate on the right is in the drawing on the bottom left on page 15-17.

What is the plate on the left? Also, in reading the text and picture, they refer to a "weather pad" that goes between the plates. With the two 1"+ round pads on my "original", I don't see any way the weather pad would fit in between. Anyone have insight or better yet....pictures.... of this set up.
 

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The plate on the left is the early version used when the brake and clutch pedal were the same length from the pedal shaft to their 'elbows'. The plate on the right was used when they shortened the brake pedal in late May, 1932 (see page 15-16 text). Judging from your earlier photo of your top plate, the one on the left in this photo mates with your top plate. The two round rubber bumpers on the bottom plate face outward (downward) toward the pedals, hence they do not interfere with the sponge rubber 'weather' pad shown on page 15-17.

The pad shown on that page is the later pad and that is the one being reproduced currently. You will have to enlarge the opening for the brake pedal upward to accommodate your early 'taller' brake pedal.

You will end up with a 'sandwich' of the top plate, weather pad, and lower plate from top to bottom.
 
...don't know if it is mentioned in "the book" ? but the Commercial plates are
different than the passenger plates due to the steeper angle of the steering column tube on Commercials. The cutout for the tube is longer on the Commercial I think???
 
Richard, David G wrote the book and yes commercial steering tube slot is different.Did that 17 tooth speedo gear (LARS)work for you?
 
deuce lover said:
Richard, David G wrote the book and yes commercial steering tube slot is different.Did that 17 tooth speedo gear (LARS)work for you?
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I don't have the book :( so was not sure if it was mentioned there??? It had not been mentioned on this thread, so I thought it might be good to do so.

The speedo drive is sitting on my desk... but has worked fine so far!
I could have sold it a few times already... :) ... but won't!!!
 
David, thanks. The top plate was not on the car when I got it, and there was no filler pad. I never know if a part is original or if my Uncle picked it up along the way.
 
Richard,

Yes, it's in the book. The cutout in the commercial plates for the steering column tube is shallower than that for the passenger cars because of the more upright position of the steering column in those vehicles (except the sedan delivery, which has the same column angle as a passenger car)/
 
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Richard,

Yes, it's in the book. The cutout in the commercial plates for the steering column tube is shallower than that for the passenger cars because of the more upright position of the steering column in those vehicles (except the sedan delivery, which has the same column angle as a passenger car)/
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Thanks, that makes sense... We have made these plates from an original as a pattern, doing it the "very hard way." Is somebody else making them??? I did not know that the brake pedal was changed - do you know by how much? Was this change made around the same time the firewall was "pooched" out for more foot
room? As they are, the 32 pedals are often very close to the steering column. We have found that many of the 32 brake pedals have "sagged" in that direction over the years, due to the way they are angled over to the left AND no doubt from people "standing" on the brake pedal trying to get it stopped... :) The pedal bushings also wear at an angle, causing the pedal to rub on the openings in
the floor tin - very irritating. This also happens on 33-34's, but the column is way above the pedals on those...
 
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Richard,

Off the top of my head, the pedal was shortened by about a 1/2". I believe that the pedal change took place somewhat later than the firewall change. I'll check my resources and give you a better answer.

Mike McKennett of Portland, Oregon reproduces both the upper and lower plates. His upper plate has the reinforcing beads like the original.

As you said, worn upper and lower plates are commonplace on '32s and '33-'34s.
 
Richard,

I should have added that the brake pedal was shortened because of potential interference with the engine bell housings.

David
 
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Richard,

I should have added that the brake pedal was shortened because of potential interference with the engine bell housings.

David
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I was not aware of the pedal change. We have often encountered the interference when a later 59AB engine is installed in a 32, the remedy for which has been to "adjust" the attitude of the brake pedal so that it goes past the bell housing/block instead of hitting it, but not so far that the pedal/pad is too close to the steering column tube. We had thought that this problem was occurring because the later blocks are a little fatter than a 32-36 in that area, but apparently it was also a problem early on... Good to know! Thanks!
 
Well here is mine. Several coats of Primer and several of enamel. Man these cars teach patience......
 

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Page 465 of Bob Drake's latest catalog shows a B-700392 Top Plate for $24.00 that looks like the one in Jim1932's picture four posts above . He doesn't list a Bottom Plate. I sold Bob a top plate like Jim's and a 32 Transmission Cover Plate a couple of years ago before Dave's new books came out. I'm not sure what version of the transmission cover plate that I sent Bob, but his reproduction of it isn't in his latest catalog.
 
The drawing on his doesn't match mine. His is rectangular while my original has the corners angled off on one end.
 

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jim1932 said:
OK...YES I read the book....

The Plate onthe left in the photo came of my original looking floorboard. It is 2 1/2" by 9 1/2" (I repainted it recently). When I thought I did not have the bottom plate I bought the plate on the right in the photo (Obviously modified).

Questions: The plate on the left, I do not find in the book....is this an "A" part? The plate on the right is in the drawing on the bottom left on page 15-17.

What is the plate on the left? Also, in reading the text and picture, they refer to a "weather pad" that goes between the plates. With the two 1"+ round pads on my "original", I don't see any way the weather pad would fit in between. Anyone have insight or better yet....pictures.... of this set up.
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Not too sure on lower pieces but the thingie at the top looks like a computer key board. LOL
 
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