Hot rod steering box

[3W Hank]

The 39 has the rib on sector axle ( se picture and the 39 I saw yesterday ) so that might been a 39 box or ?
I now saw both 37 and 39 boxes so sector is way longer on the 39 vs the 37.
Neal on picture say the Hudson has a longer sector ( talk 37 ) but the 39 has a longer.
The 37 has no rib to sector axle ( the one I saw anyway )

 

[petehoovie]

The 39 has the rib on sector axle ( se picture and the 39 I saw yesterday ) so that might been a 39 box or ?
I now saw both 37 and 39 boxes so sector is way longer on the 39 vs the 37.
Neal on picture say the Hudson has a longer sector ( talk 37 ) but the 39 has a longer.
The 37 has no rib to sector axle ( the one I saw anyway )

 

[hotcoupe]

Hank, I have an idea regarding modifying a steering box for your hotrod. Give me a call when you get a chance.
Tom

 

[FlatheadTed]

Back in about 2021 I put up a tutorial of how to fit a 1935 15 to one Worm and sector into a 32 box ,the best one is a Ford NOS type ,Contact me if more information is required , Ted

 

[3W Hank]

I has a 32 box and a new made 15 to one Worm ( old made repro / not China ?
My plans is get it in, but new plans is use the roller type ex Hudson.
I has try mail Neal or ask here on 37 vs the 39 ( indication ) but has so far never get the real answer to equation.

 

[3W Hank]

I has locate up a ( 37 ) box and partnumner is what Tom said.
I still wait on the box ( 39 ? ) in Sweden on partnumber and lenghts from end of box to end of sector axle.
This 37 ( ? ) so far seems to be around 9.5”.
This might be good informarion for people as me get a Hudson box.
As told its the 37 but there are also the 39, and so far I think its tiny bigger and sector axle is longer.
Why that is not good for a 32 frame I can’t tell right now.
It would be very nice if Neal would explain some here on how and why.
On picture as what its told be a 37, but I saw 2 ( 37 ) in Sweden and both had not the rib on sector ( so its kind of confusing.
I do will find out one way or another why the 39 is not as ’good’ or why 37 is one year ’only’.

 

[Ronnieroadster]

I'm confused as to why your doing all of this when the F-1 steering box is the easiest, fastest and least expensive way to put a very good steering box on a Deuce frame.

Did I miss something about why you would be interested in making this such a hard thing to accomplish? I ask this question since I know for certain using the F-1 steering boxes on my Deuces has been easy - affordable and always work perfectly as well.
Ronnieroadster

 

[3W Hank]

Ron, you shore is right ! :- )
But the F-100 is made 54 and its bigger.
I shore could use it and a buddy has a F-1 I heard yesterday ( cheap and working ) but Hudson is cool and classic, so why not - plus information is never hard carry.
So I has locate up one 37.
I will be at LARS so I might find something there but I guess I go for this one.

 

[Ronnieroadster]

The Ford F-1 steering box came out in 1948 this detail adds to the cool factor for a period correct early Hot Rod build.
Ronnieroadster

 

[glennpm]

I don't understand why you are against an F-1 box.

Regarding the Hudson 1939 with a longer shaft than the '37 another ??
NealinCA posts on the HAMB, not here.


3" chop is too much. Any dip in the road or hill you won't be able to see out regardless of how low your seat is. You'll regret it.

 

[3W Hank]

Neal showed the angle from a F-1 to the Hudson.
But that can be fixed ( rotate a F-1 ) but Hudson is hotrod cool.
I can go either way, I has all options, std 32, F-100, F-1, Hudson.
Today a called a Hudson shop ( pro in USA ) and he said 37 is the same as 39 so I still ask why Neal said one year ’only’ (?)
The Swede find Hudson 39 ? ( is + 9” lenghts on sector from end of box to end of sector thread ) as the so call 1937.
( that’s why I reasach it )

( My coupe was chopped on the 50’s in USA as a dragcar and is to low, well its up the ones eye. Me I like it at 3”.
2” is nice but std is not look ok with no fenders
4-6 is cool to but the more than 4” is just race. ( my opinion )
Propotianal is say 3” is nice.
Look at the aword winning coupe Steday fast builed at 3”, look at the radical chop Hilton build ( 7” ) for a 5W customer so one is to judge.

 

[3W Hank]

My research goes on..
Today I visit again the guy who has several Hudson boxes.
We said the one we think is the 39 is the same as 37 but the 37 has part number A 04 and the 39 has B or D 05.
Both are same width 9” to end of sector axle, both has a rib cast on sector box case.
But he has another box that are only 8” and no cast rib.
Box house is the same but side mount flange is slightly different.
Then that box has the same diameter that the steering wheel tube goes on as a 32 Ford but the 37-39 box is bigger there on the diameter.
-So one can wonder what box that is ( year )
He think it’s a 37 ( or always thought so )
On picture you see the end of sector don’t look like a 39, this one ends at flange.

 

[petehoovie]

My reseach goes on.
Today I visit again the guy who has several Hudson boxes.
We said the one we think is the 39 is the same as 37 but the 37 has partnumber A 04 and the 39 has B or D 05. Both are same widht 9” to end of sector axle, bot has a rib cast on sector box case.
But he has another box that are only 8” and and no cast rib.
Box house is the same but side plate is slightly dfferent.
Then that box has the same diameter that the steering wheel tube goes on as a 32 but the 39 box is bigger there on the diameter.
-So one can wonder what box that is ( year )
He think its s 37 ( or always thought so )
On picture you see the end of sector dont look like a 39, this one ends at flenge.

 

[3W Hank]

I think I has the answer.
This box that has the smaller steering wheel tube same as Ford 32 is a smaller car ( shorter wheelbase Hudson same yeaar 37-39 and that explain the shorter distance from 9 to 8 inch and house is the same ( and internal gears ) but castings is not really the same but as I hear it fit better a 32 Ford frame.
Now, need to find one.

 

[3W Hank]

I will go for a Hudson but to learn I’ll borrowed a F-1 box but its Big, bigger than the F-100, so is really a F-1, se partnumber aswell on it ( 33748(0?)14.

 

[petehoovie]

I will go for a Hudson but to learn I’ll borrowed a F-1 box but its Big, bigger than the F-100, so is really a F-1, se partnumber aswell on it ( 33748(0?)14.

 

[3W Hank]

That ( F-1 ) box must been to a 3/4 ton truck.
Today at a Swapmeet I bought a box that was told came from fire truck 1/2 ton.
This is a F-1.
Did feel great at very cheap to.
I might try get a Hudson otherwise I use this one.

 

[petehoovie]

That ( F-1 ) box must been to a 3/4 ton truck.
Today at a Swapmeet I bought a box that was told came from fire truck 1/2 ton.
This is a F-1.
Did feel great at very cheap to.
I might try get a Hudson otherwise I use this one.

 

[3W Hank]

The box is cleaned off, all is nice so just gaskets needed.
Its a ’crack’ but it might be even from factory ?
At the swapmeet I bought this 41 Lincoln drums, also a bargin.

 

[alchemy]

The gaskets are also shims, so read up on proper assembly and clearancing.