Tudie’s starting to start

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Tudie’s starting to start

It’s me again. Put the new starter on today. Checked it before hand by connecting to Tudie’s 6volt battery. Spun better with what looks like a new bendix (that came of the other starter) than the old one did without. Excitement as I pushed the the button but…. Just a slow drag again, very, very, slow. I jumped with a 12volt from the boat and she fired right up. I’ve cleaned every connection almost, as I was chasing the cables looking for issues I realized I missed the connection at the firewall to starter button, it’s pretty nasty looking. Could this have been the problem all along? Sincerely, Fun but Frustrated in Tennessee.
 
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I've had that problem with my rebuild, went from my pos (grd) to the motor helped a lot spun over better.
 
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The first thing to do would be to LOAD TEST the battery with a proper battery load tester. Guess you may not have one of those so take it to a battery shop or an auto electrical shop to test it. Check it yourself with a voltmeter. Voltage should bbe 6.3 volts on a good charged battery. Regards, Kevin.
 
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koates said:
The first thing to do would be to LOAD TEST the battery with a proper battery load tester. Guess you may not have one of those so take it to a battery shop or an auto electrical shop to test it. Check it yourself with a voltmeter. Voltage should bbe 6.3 volts on a good charged battery. Regards, Kevin.
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The battery is an Red top Optima. It did need charged. 5.8 Volts. I haven’t had it in a charger for months. Car has a battery shut off. I’ll test again tomorrow. Thanks Kevin.
 
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I had a slow starting problem and screeching sound on my 1937 221” on first start up after complete overhaul of the engine and starter. I found that the Bendix spring attach bolt was fouling on the starter cup attached to the bell housing, causing drag on the starter and I presume, loss of current going to the coil. These cups have sometimes been slightly dented over the years. I removed the cup and fitted a replacement. Solved the problem, engine now starts immediately at the press of the button. If the car hasn’t been run for a while and is cold, I run the electric pump for 15 seconds, then one pump on the accelerator and press the starter button, starts immediately. Hope this helps.
 

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Ramjet47 said:
I had a slow starting problem and screeching sound on my 1937 221” on first start up after complete overhaul of the engine and starter. I found that the Bendix spring attach bolt was fouling on the starter cup attached to the bell housing, causing drag on the starter and I presume, loss of current going to the coil. These cups have sometimes been slightly dented over the years. I removed the cup and fitted a replacement. Solved the problem, engine now starts immediately at the press of the button. If the car hasn’t been run for a while and is cold, I run the electric pump for 15 seconds, then one pump on the accelerator and press the starter button, starts immediately. Hope this helps.
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I guess the good thing is no noises. Cleaning a couple more connections and checking batteries tonight. I’ll keep all informed. Thanks, Greg
 
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Love it when a plan comes together!! Good trouble shooting!!
 
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Watch out for rebuilts. I was always apprehensive about the starter in my '51. It never failed me, but it seemed to not have the "oomph" it should have. So when I heard that NAPA had a deal on rebuilts I ordered one and installed it. It was worse than the one I took out; it would hardly start the car. I took a swap meet unit off the shelf (it had a "good" tag on it) and put it in. It was much better than either of the others. So i decided to do it myself. Previously, I had ordered a bunch of flathead starter bushings and brushes from Rock Auto on close-out. My neighbor who is into flipping electric golf carts, had obtained a "growler", so we used that to test the armature and found it was good. Turning the commutater and installing new bushings and brushes resulted in a starter that turns the old Ford over like a new 12 volt vehicle.

I took the NAPA unit back, and they gave me a credit like it was normal business. (This on a "No Return" electrical part.)
 
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tubman said:
Watch out for rebuilts. I was always apprehensive about the starter in my '51. It never failed me, but it seemed to not have the "oomph" it should have. So when I heard that NAPA had a deal on rebuilts I ordered one and installed it. It was worse than the one I took out; it would hardly start the car. I took a swap meet unit off the shelf (it had a "good" tag on it) and put it in. It was much better than either of the others. So i decided to do it myself. Previously, I had ordered a bunch of flathead starter bushings and brushes from Rock Auto on close-out. My neighbor who is into flipping electric golf carts, had obtained a "growler", so we used that to test the armature and found it was good. Turning the commutater and installing new bushings and brushes resulted in a starter that turns the old Ford over like a new 12 volt vehicle.

I took the NAPA unit back, and they gave me a credit like it was normal business. (This on a "No Return" electrical part.)
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. And I bet it went back on the shelf. For the next happy customer.
 
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