Anyone else heard or know?

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I had a customer of mine tell me yesterday that GM is going to close the majority of there engine factories and quit producing aftermarket fuel burning motors by 2025 as part of the goal of being 100% EV by 2035......ANYONE heard about this OR have heard IF the "Blue Oval" is following suit?? Sounds as IF "crate motors" are to be the "FIRST" casualty of the car collecting hobby.
 
None of my cars have "crate motors". Likely not affecting me. Will rebuild what I have if necessary.
I haven't heard anyone address that you can fill up your car with fuel in a few minutes and recharging an electric vehicle can take hours. How is that going to work even if we had enough excess power on the grid? Sounds like massive backups at the recharge stations.
 
Hertz recently order 100,000, Tesla's for their fleet. Tesla has more market value than Ford. All that shouldn't effect EV8 guys except the price of good blocks will likely rise. There are upsides and downsides to electric cars, as with almost anything.
 
Ronnieroadster said:
It might be a good time to get into battery recycling a ground floor investment?
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About three weeks ago, I had a brain-fart, contemplating getting into commercial charging stations for the masses that will be needing to re-charge their daily-drivers while at work, for instance. It took me about three minutes worth of research to realize that I was a little late for that game.

I STILL don't understand how California proposes charging ALL of the new electric cars that are coming, when they can't even keep the power on TODAY just to run refrigerators and TVs. I just cannot imagine what it is that keeps people wanting to continue to live in that wonderfully 'together' state. It don't sound all that good from out here. DD
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Not that it has much to do with the discussion, but didn’t Hertz file for bankruptcy protection in the first covid wave. My wife worked for them in 2019 and received a lot of correspondence about legal claims due to bankruptcy. Don’t know where they’d get the money for 100,000 Tesla’s. But like the man above says What Do I Know!!!.....Mark
 
From one of the stops at the local recharge station:)
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V8COOPMAN said:
I STILL don't understand how California proposes charging ALL of the new electric cars that are coming, when they can't even keep the power on TODAY just to run refrigerators and TVs. I just cannot imagine what it is that keeps people wanting to continue to live in that wonderfully 'together' state. It don't sound all that good from out here. DD
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And we on the Best Coast likewise are puzzled as to why anyone would choose to live anywhere but here.
 
talked to a guy that has a Tesla and it goes like 450 mi. on a charge and will recharge in 1 hr. It's called a super charged Tesla and yes I heard that GM will go all electric.
 
As long as we don't mess with their thing, why would they mess with ours? We are a teeny tiny drop in the bucket of dino fuel users.
 
They want us gone. They can not just say no, you cant play anymore, but they will force us out once the electrics tip the scale with higher taxes for plates, and gas so high you will "need" to go electric
 
I think it was Motor Trend that just devoted an entire month issue to EV. Battery technology is about 10 years away from a much lower cost and longer range, faster recharging battery, to put into production. The lower cost battery will make EV about the same cost, OR, less to own as gas cars over a 5 year period. GM will still be making gas powered large truck type vehicles. Ford is in the same boat. At this time Tesla has the longest range battery at about 450 miles in just one of their models. The recharge times from nearly dead to full charge are about 8 hours at this point. It's going to take a lot of time to drive from coast to coast. Your going to see a lot less long distance driving except for large trucks.
A lot of buyers forget about recharging. It appears the chargers can run up to about $600. PLUS the cost of labor and material for installation in a garage by an electrician add up to $2,000. in some areas of the country.
 
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I've been thinking about this since the post went up. I'd like to know what energy sources they are planning to use to power the grid to charge this massive fleet of electric cars in 2030.

As it stands now, I believe renewable energy sourced account for only 19.8% of our resources.

Unless our electric grid is upgraded at an unbelievable rate, we'll need to fall back on fossil fuel powered electric plants, which would seem to have a negative impact on the clean aspect of all these electric vehicles.

I'm assuming that hydrogen fuel cells are out of the running? That seemed to have a lot of promise since hydrogen is abundant (albeit highly flammable) and the byproduct of hydrogen combustion is H20.

I do believe the genie is out of the bottle in regards to electric vehicles, but I just can't imagine to environmental impact of trashing all the left over fossil fueled vehicles. It wasn't too long ago that your local wrecking yard were deemed hazardous waste sites that needed soil remediation.

I'd have to assume there would need to be a long ramp to phase these vehicles out. Hopefully I'll be taking a nice dirt nap by the time that happens.
 
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Terry said:
I think it was Motor Trend that just devoted an entire month issue to EV. Battery technology is about 10 years away from a much lower cost and longer range, faster recharging battery, to put into production. The lower cost battery will make EV about the same cost, OR, less to own as gas cars over a 5 year period. GM will still be making gas powered large truck type vehicles. Ford is in the same boat. At this time Tesla has the longest range battery at about 450 miles in just one of their models. The recharge times from nearly dead to full charge are about 8 hours at this point. It's going to take a lot of time to drive from coast to coast. Your going to see a lot less long distance driving except for large trucks.
A lot of buyers forget about recharging. It appears the chargers can run up to about $600. PLUS the cost of labor and material for installation in a garage by an electrician add up to $2,000. in some areas of the country.[/QUOT

Curious, would chargers (2 per average household) work with older homes' 100 amp panels?
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Terry said:
I think it was Motor Trend that just devoted an entire month issue to EV. Battery technology is about 10 years away from a much lower cost and longer range, faster recharging battery, to put into production. The lower cost battery will make EV about the same cost, OR, less to own as gas cars over a 5 year period. GM will still be making gas powered large truck type vehicles. Ford is in the same boat. At this time Tesla has the longest range battery at about 450 miles in just one of their models. The recharge times from nearly dead to full charge are about 8 hours at this point. It's going to take a lot of time to drive from coast to coast. Your going to see a lot less long distance driving except for large trucks.
A lot of buyers forget about recharging. It appears the chargers can run up to about $600. PLUS the cost of labor and material for installation in a garage by an electrician add up to $2,000. in some areas of the country.
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I am wondering where ALL the raw materials for ALL these batteries going to come from? Especially what are considered "precious" raw materials which most come from NOT friendly sources.....What environmentally sensitive areas will NOW be mined to supply this demand?? Fattening frogs to feed snakes?? ALSO its funny how the EV charge (no pun intended) is being led by the environmentalist YET these "FAST" charging stations NEED a large capacity A/C cooling system to cool the batteries and charging units as they charge SO how much more "Freon" will be needed for ALL these new public "fast" charging systems and what will be released into the atmosphere?? AND then ALL of the toxic waste from all the mining, manufacturing and especially the disposal of all the NON reusable materials used. NOT even started on the amount of Electricity that will be needed as tens of millions of people get home everyday and plug their cars in to charge everyday, think of that load demand on the power grid!!!! Sounds like an environmental disaster to me!!! Anyone have a spare bottle of "Colonel Harvey's Elixir" they could spare, I need some?
 
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