Tom Wesenberg
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My red plastic gas containers with the yellow spouts all had a brass screen that would block water, but pass gas, until the ethanol crap gas ate up the brass.
putting gasoline in your Model A
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katy
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I use a tractor funnel w/the water seperator screen.
https://www.peaveymart.com/Extra-Tall-Funnel-8-QT-P529.aspx
30 Closed Cab PU
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How do you judge when the A's tank is getting full, so you do not overfill the tank and spill gas?
Kurt in NJ
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In NJ it's no problem-- pull in, say fill it, or $ amount and you don't even have to get out of the car--- and it costs less than the other states --- after all self serve costs more, due to higher insurance, equipment maintenance
30 Closed Cab PU
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That's interesting, did not even know some states had not converted to self serve. I always thought self serve was cheaper. The only station here in my town that fills your tank for you charges more.
A lot of times the gas station will have the u shaped plate to hold the spring nozzle back. They use it on motorcycles, which almost never have enough depth to compress the snorkel.
fordcragar
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In Oregon, it is against the law to pump your own gas. I'm use to Washington, where most places you pump your own gas, unless there is a full service (very rare) station available. So when I'm traveling in Oregon, the attendant usually has to take the nozzle away from me, to do his/her job. But they are usually at the door before you shut off the engine.
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woofa.express
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Y Blockhead (post 6 ) is correct.
Please let me contribute here.
Static electricity. I know of a helicopter refuelling fire when the hose was passed across the bubble. Two blokes badly burned, helicopter destroyed.
A second in 1979. Refuelling from drums to bulk truck tank. again in passing fuel hose. 92 drums exploded and one went through the back wall of an adjacent hangar. Aeroplanes pulled out. Very fortunately a local volunteer fireman was a part owner and had a key to open up. Don't park aeroplanes in hanger with breaks on, you could possibly loose them.
Proper aeroplane fuel delivery hoses have a fine copper wire running the length and earthed at both ends. Plus a wire and clip from nozzle to attach to aeroplane, Plus an earth wire earthed to attach to aeroplane. I reckon it's okay to skip this one provided you are satisfied the fuel hose is approved, or earthed.
Ensure the nozzle / earth is attached prior to opening fuel cap. If no earth wire ensure the nozzle handle touches aeroplane prior to opening the cap and ensure the nozzle is touching fuel tank whilst fuel is flowing.
I had an incident once where static formed when a camloc fitting in the delivery was synthetic thus insulated. Fortunately I felt electricity through my body. Used jumper leads for the remainder of day to earth drum to aeroplane. I also saw pictures of a auto fuel station destroyed when a bloke held his plastic containers off the ground and filled them with fuel.
It's easy to avoid but consequences can be severe if you don't.
Please let me contribute here.
Static electricity. I know of a helicopter refuelling fire when the hose was passed across the bubble. Two blokes badly burned, helicopter destroyed.
A second in 1979. Refuelling from drums to bulk truck tank. again in passing fuel hose. 92 drums exploded and one went through the back wall of an adjacent hangar. Aeroplanes pulled out. Very fortunately a local volunteer fireman was a part owner and had a key to open up. Don't park aeroplanes in hanger with breaks on, you could possibly loose them.
Proper aeroplane fuel delivery hoses have a fine copper wire running the length and earthed at both ends. Plus a wire and clip from nozzle to attach to aeroplane, Plus an earth wire earthed to attach to aeroplane. I reckon it's okay to skip this one provided you are satisfied the fuel hose is approved, or earthed.
Ensure the nozzle / earth is attached prior to opening fuel cap. If no earth wire ensure the nozzle handle touches aeroplane prior to opening the cap and ensure the nozzle is touching fuel tank whilst fuel is flowing.
I had an incident once where static formed when a camloc fitting in the delivery was synthetic thus insulated. Fortunately I felt electricity through my body. Used jumper leads for the remainder of day to earth drum to aeroplane. I also saw pictures of a auto fuel station destroyed when a bloke held his plastic containers off the ground and filled them with fuel.
It's easy to avoid but consequences can be severe if you don't.
Clem Clement
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During my flying days I and my crew were assigned to a static display at an air show in. We flew m parked and set up. An F105 arrived and shot some practice landings. Alter the sow he found out that the base did not have his kind of fuel (JP-4). We were asked to do ground refueling. The base wanted to just attach the drogue to the fighter and pump gas!!
Not gonna happen. I had the base confirm the tie downs near by were in fact grounded(some were no). The we grounded each airplane to a ground spot and the two aircraft together. Then we unreeled the hose and hand plugged the drogue into the fighters' receptacle. I still don't have a beer for saving the fighter jock from a dumb-chit award.
Not gonna happen. I had the base confirm the tie downs near by were in fact grounded(some were no). The we grounded each airplane to a ground spot and the two aircraft together. Then we unreeled the hose and hand plugged the drogue into the fighters' receptacle. I still don't have a beer for saving the fighter jock from a dumb-chit award.
After 20 years of operation, I had the same problem develop - keeping the gas flowing from the gas pump handle into the tank. I guess I could have bought a new screen as that clearly was the problem, but my grandpa owned several T's and A's and told me about several ways to deal with problems on those cars (it was 'always' a way that they 'saved money' back in those days). FIRST, remove the screen and try soaking it in a carb cleaning solution and then scrubbing and more cleaning.
(An old trick) - I eventually took the gas tank filler screen out and drilled a round pattern of multiple rows of 1/16 holes in it starting half way up from the bottom and working up. Solved the problem. Now I can set the pump handle on the slowest setting and leave it until it shuts off. The hole size and distance was just my 'best guess' equation.
(An old trick) - I eventually took the gas tank filler screen out and drilled a round pattern of multiple rows of 1/16 holes in it starting half way up from the bottom and working up. Solved the problem. Now I can set the pump handle on the slowest setting and leave it until it shuts off. The hole size and distance was just my 'best guess' equation.
fordcragar
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I've read several posts, where someone is putting their gas into a can, then pouring it into the car; which if you are on the road and away from home doesn't seem like the way that I'd like to go. I know everyone uses their cars differently, but I tend to drive mine a lot. This is why I started this thread, to see what others are doing to fill their cars at a gas station. Hopefully I didn't step on anyone's toes, that isn't what I was trying to do.
Tom Wesenberg
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That's what I do. Just stick the nozzle about an inch in, then pull the handle for low flow, and it does fine with the original screen in place.