Model B 4 cyl water pump?

hardtimes said:
Hey Charlie,
Now, that's just bragging ...geeze, nice engine bay :eek: !
But, I wouldn't do that ! Well, maybe just one pic of lonely B in waiting:cool:

BTW..thanks to David and you for you id help here !
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That unfortunately is not my engine bay. Just a shot I took a couple of years ago at LARS because I thought it was a nice engine bay.

Charlie Stephens
 
hardtimes said:
Hey G.M.,
Curious as to how you attached a cooling fan to the V8 pump on you B engine ? Currently , there are no such adaptors made to put a fan to an early V8 pump. Kling's used to make an adaptor for such fan use to early V8 pump. He told me this year, that he hasn't made such adaptors for years now...'not enough demand' to justify making them.

I have three different alum adaptors to mix/match various pumps to application, so am aware of those. Also , have good early V8 pumps that I'd like to use....but have to have that adaptor !
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I'm not sure if the pulley is one of the special ones or if it's a 36 type
with the 4 threaded boss's for the fan to mount on. I'll take a look and
get a few pictures if I can. ALL 36 type impellers are not the same,
there is the truck type with a little larger impeller and the most used
type with little nubbins for impellers. Then there is Skips 36 type
impeller with large longer streamlined blades. There are flat surfaces
on front of the stock impellers that block and disturb the flow where
Skips impeller is tapered to improve the flow. Stock 36 pumps deliver
55 gallons in 5 minutes and Skips 36 pump delivers 92 gallons. This
makes a big difference in cooling. I did this conversion 30 years ago
and don't remember. I have a complete machine shop and may have
bored and keyed a stock 36 pulley to fit?? G.M.
 

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Thanks all. I am in need of a 32, but I will measure just to be sure. Looks like this thread could be helpful for people other than me so glad to see it :)
 
Hey G.M.,
Thanks, would be nice to know !
Skip almost doubled the Ford stock output, wow. Maybe ford should have him a an engineer ! Or is this a case of tooo much is not too good ?
 
32-B, If you run out of options I have a new 33-34 shaft with impeller pressed on that might be useful for the impeller part if it was removed and pressed on the longer 1932 shaft. Otherwise, I have always wondered if a Model A impeller could be used in place of the 32-34 impeller. Some guys will grind down the fins on the "A" to slow down the flow so maybe it could move enough water on a Model B?
 
I got a couple pictures of the 36 water pump on my 32 B engine
this afternoon. It appears to have a plain stock 36 pulley. I thought
I used a V/8 pulley with the 4 cast boss's that hold the fan on but
that was not the case. It looks like I made an aluminum adapter/
spacer over 30 years ago and just don't remember. I'm not sure
what the 4 bladed fan is from but it runs true and is good and
tight. G.M.
 

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Wow thanks GM. That actually doesnt look that far off from orignal. Maybe I could live with that, but for now will continue to look for a 32 pump.
 
Sacramento Vintage Ford shows a 3-bolt fixing pump at $175.00 part Number 00473-1-12 and a repair kit at $95.00
part Number 00473-1-3

Both for 32 Model B
 

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G.M. said:
I got a couple pictures of the 36 water pump on my 32 B engine
this afternoon. It appears to have a plain stock 36 pulley. I thought
I used a V/8 pulley with the 4 cast boss's that hold the fan on but
that was not the case. It looks like I made an aluminum adapter/
spacer over 30 years ago and just don't remember. I'm not sure
what the 4 bladed fan is from but it runs true and is good and
tight. G.M.
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Hey G.M.,
Thanks for sharing these pictures !
I like the width of your adaptor toward the radiator.
HOW did you fasten the adaptor to the V8 shaft to keep it in place ?
 
OK. The pump that I got leaks more than I can live with. I ordered the rebuild kit from renners, he was very nice. Has anyone here rebuilt these before that can walk me through it? The instructions aren't very clear. Any special tools required? looks like most people recommend drilling and pinning the impeller? I have a press and a drill press. Any other tricks? I was a mechanic for years, just never done one of these.
 
It's a pretty straightforward process. The attached exploded view may be helpful.
 

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32B said:
OK. The pump that I got leaks more than I can live with. I ordered the rebuild kit from renners, he was very nice. Has anyone here rebuilt these before that can walk me through it? The instructions aren't very clear. Any special tools required? looks like most people recommend drilling and pinning the impeller? I have a press and a drill press. Any other tricks? I was a mechanic for years, just never done one of these.
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Have you checked the packing??

Bob
 
Thanks David. That should be very helpful. Bob I haven't. When I got it the bearings felt rough but thought I would give it a whirl. It def needs a rebuild and not just some packing. So stock the impeller is not pinned to the shaft? Just pressed? The rebuild kit came with a new shaft, is there an advantage to replacing it if its not tore up? Guess I'll just give her the ol take it apart to learn how to put it back together.
 
NOS B and '33-'34 four cylinder service part impeller/shafts show up both pinned and unpinned, just like NOS V8 pump impeller/shaft assemblies.
 
I bought a leakless pump from Macs about 8 yrs ago. Has never leaked and still going strong.

At least one feather in the cap for Macs!
 
water pump is rebuilt. only tricky part was the measument on the bearing sleeve but the instructions were clear on that. Thanks again everyone, glad it didnt cost me $
 
hardtimes said:
Hey Charlie,
Now, that's just bragging ...geeze, nice engine bay :eek: !
But, I wouldn't do that ! Well, maybe just one pic of lonely B in waiting:cool:

BTW..thanks to David and you for you id help here !
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All I can brag about is that I have a good camera, the engine belongs to someone else.

Charlie Stephens
 
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