Wood Kit

[Classiccanuck]

Purchased a wood kit for my '28 Phaeton, when does it get installed? before paint? after primer? after final paint?..... any suppliers sell hardware kits to install?

 

[Marshall V. Daut]

Definitely before paint (color)! I can see primering all the metal inside and out before installing the wood to protect the metal beneath. The wood in a four-door phaeton (not a Deluxe Phaeton, though!) is not structural. It's only there to provide a base for tacking on the upholstery panels. It will all be covered, so it doesn't matter if you do more primering after installation and get overspray on it. But you don't want to wait until the color coats have been applied before installing the wood because aside from potential scratches incurred, the two seat backrest panels will need to be slightly bent for the wood pieces along the top edges to be lined up and bolts installed through the wood and metal holes. This bending will crack most paint.
Marshall
1928 Phaeton, late 1931 Standard Phaeton, early and late 1931 Deluxe Phaetons

 

[SeaSlugs]

As a general rule to any body style model A: Would you media blast the entire body before wood installation, then por 15 or some other super tough rust preventative paint where the steel will contact the wood, then install the wood, then primer the whole thing?

Or would you soak/apply some wood preservative before installing the wood?

 

[Mike V. Florida]

Or would you soak/apply some wood preservative before installing the wood?

Fit wood, disassemble, preserve, then re assemble.

 

[SeaSlugs]

will paint stick to the preserved wood?

 

[Dollar Bill]

will paint stick to the preserved wood?

Depends on what preservative you're using - But most preservatives that dry will accept paint.

 

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

This question has come up before, but worth a re-visit. Why apply a preservative?

As Marshall mentioned above, in this bodystyle application the wood is not structural however in many styles it is. So what are we gaining by installing/applying a sealer? Any place a fastener (i.e.: tack or screw) is introduced to the wood, you have punctured the sealer, and with two dissimilar materials, this is where the deterioration will begin should any moisture be present. Even when you inspect original unpreserved wood that has deteriorated, it is always in an area where there was a tack or a screw.

Also factoring in, how many restored cars will ever see, or be subjected to the climate of what the cars were originally. In all likelihood, because the wood flexes with the body as it is being driven, the replacement wood will probably never be compromised by moisture, but more likely will find itself coming apart due to glue degrading over time and/or fasteners no longer holding tightly due to vibrations. Nothing a sealer can do to prolong this IMHO.

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[Classiccanuck]

Thanks to all the replies, going with bare wood and installing after primer. Now to find a shop to do body and paint, it been a real challenge finding a shop here that has any true interest and knowledge of old cars to do the work. Brent, you don't happen to have any Canadian Cousins in the restoration business do you? If only Tennessee was closer to Canada, LOL!