Good techniques for restamping frame?

rotorwrench said:
These old frames get rusted out. I see no reason why a person can't do a re-stamp after a related repair. I don't condone fraud but there is room for non-fraudulent use of stamps in my book.
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Well said and I most definitely agree. As far as stamping an early Ford goes though I would stamp with no guide lines, just as was done BITD on the assembly line.
 
I replaced the frame on a38 ,so cut the SN. area from the original and bolted it to the replacement in the correct area .Johnny.
 
Probably unrelated, possibly remotely related... I was admiring a 32 3W street rod at a car show. The SN was clearly visible, and I immediately noticed it was NOT a 32 SN, and also that it was clearly a factory stamping. I made a note of the number, and later looked it up. The SN on this frame was for a 41, and the fabricator had obviously and carefully grafted it into that repro, street-rod 32 frame. Though not exactly related, my point is that somewhere along here is a line, if crossed, leans towards fraud. Point, be careful. In my state, I'm pretty sure that ANY re-stamp is illegal. Not sure about that, but worth looking up if one is tempted. Just opinion...
I'm aware of, and have first-hand knowledge of, one example where the person with a 32 (not the example above) had the car impounded by the state, and as far as I'm aware, I believe it was 'bye-bye-car'. I happened to be the party with the correct, original 32, which happened to have a serial number that duplicated the number the other person had been using. Actually, I'm not sure of the final outcome, as I was friends with the DMV Manager that caught this, and a deal could have been made with the other party for him to bring his car into compliance. My DMV Manager-friend suggested that a deal was possible.
 
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slightly OT, but i have a 34 canadian frame which they used larger stamps, like maybe 7/16, on most of the numbers, but one or two(i forget) are the same size as the trans numbers, 3/8 or so. i sanded down to clean metal and cant see any sign of tampering, i wonder did the guy on the line that day drop his big punch and use the little one until lunch break!!! i havnt applied for title yet, but i bet they wont like it
 
bobH said:
Probably unrelated, possibly remotely related... I was admiring a 32 3W street rod at a car show. The SN was clearly visible, and I immediately noticed it was NOT a 32 SN, and also that it was clearly a factory stamping. I made a note of the number, and later looked it up. The SN on this frame was for a 41, and the fabricator had obviously and carefully grafted it into that repro, street-rod 32 frame. Though not exactly related, my point is that somewhere along here is a line, if crossed, leans towards fraud. Point, be careful. In my state, I'm pretty sure that ANY re-stamp is illegal. Not sure about that, but worth looking up if one is tempted. Just opinion...
I'm aware of, and have first-hand knowledge of, one example where the person with a 32 (not the example above) had the car impounded by the state, and as far as I'm aware, I believe it was 'bye-bye-car'. I happened to be the party with the correct, original 32, which happened to have a serial number that duplicated the number the other person had been using. Actually, I'm not sure of the final outcome, as I was friends with the DMV Manager that caught this, and a deal could have been made with the other party for him to bring his car into compliance. My DMV Manager-friend suggested that a deal was possible.
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I agree. You may have honest intentions, but you don't want to get caught up trying to defend yourself against accusations of wrongdoing.
 
I might be wrong, but it was my understanding that it was illegal to tamper with vehicle ID numbers in any way, including adding additional number locations.
 
JSeery said:
I might be wrong, but it was my understanding that it was illegal to tamper with vehicle ID numbers in any way, including adding additional number locations.
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That is absolutely correct, no matter what the "justification" is for doing so. If we can't rely on the accuracy (lawfulness) of the stamped vehicle number, we have nothing.
 
Since I don't have the whole picture I am going to throw something into the mix. The number on the frame should be visible by lifting the hood. What is wrong with that location? A knowledgeable DMV inspector (if they exist) would look in that location and be suspicious if the number is in a different location.

Charlie Stephens
 
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