Fuel line ferrule
- Thread starter Ross/Kzoo
- Start date
BILL WILLIAMSON
Well-known member
Ross, if it's the ferrule that comes "attached" to the nut, maybe it wasn't tightened enough to pop loose from the nut & "squeeze" tightly on the line. Rub Vaseline on the ferrulle & nut & tighten VERY firmly. It has to squeeze on the line like a wedding ring on a fat man's finger. Bill W. ( You can buy ferrules at most any hardware store or auto parts)
Joe K
Well-known member
Isn't this just a standard 3/16" ferrule? I think you can get the compression nut too at the parts drawers at the Orange place.
The parts houses have both the nut with the attached ferrule (it snaps off when you tighten) AND a "31 only" version which has the ferrule loose.
The snap off version seem to be a "one use only" sort of thing. You might try some permatex gookum pucky (technical term) on this as you tighten.
Joe K
The parts houses have both the nut with the attached ferrule (it snaps off when you tighten) AND a "31 only" version which has the ferrule loose.
The snap off version seem to be a "one use only" sort of thing. You might try some permatex gookum pucky (technical term) on this as you tighten.
Joe K
BILL WILLIAMSON
Well-known member
The snap off type is re-usable, Joe, if it's squeezed properly. It's just a different "take off" on the old system, so you don't lose the dang little ferrules+*@%^$^
Ross, be sure to buy 6 extra ferrules in case you lose one. They're 1/4" Bill W.
Ross/Kzoo
Well-known member
I agree but the fitting doesn't have the same taper where the ferrule seats in it and I couldn't find a fitting that would accept a normal tapered ferrule.
BILL WILLIAMSON
Well-known member
Sounds like your fitting was some assinine design. Seems the hardware should have one that fits. It's surely a standard size/type of nut. Don't remember the specs on the nut offhand. Bill W. (Ross, clerk must be a rookie, need one that has real knowledge, it ain't rocket science, it's regular old standard fittings)
Ross/Kzoo
Well-known member
I'm thinking that the brass fitting that I have had the ferrule attached and I thought that it was jammed. I muscled that ferrule off and tried using a normal ferrule. I think I'll need to find a new brass fitting that uses 9/16" fitting for 1/4" OD tubing. Thanks for the info because I didn't know that there was a fitting with the ferrule attached.
Purdy Swoft
Well-known member
I've never had anything but problems with the fitting with the ferrule attached. When the fitting is tightened, the ferrule is suppose to attach itself to the fuel line tightly and remain in place. In other words, after the fitting is properly tightened, the ferrule should remain part of the fuel line and not slide off. If it will move after tightening, it will leak. Both ends of the fuel line use the same ferrule. Remove the fuel line and take it with you to the hardware or parts house so that they can see what you need. this will be your easiest bet. When you get the new ferrule, I would use a tubing cutter and cut a small piece of the fuel line off where the old ferrule fit, as it may be damaged. Be carefull when you install the new ferrule , it needs to be close to the end of the fuel line with a small amount of fuel line protruding past the ferrule or it can interere or cut off flow to the carb. Good luck, its a pain but not that difficult after you get the hang of it.
Joe K
Well-known member
I think you're headed in the right direction. Just be sure that the tubing once you've removed the ferrule, is ABSOLUTELY straight - or you can put the new ferrule on a straight portion. If the tube seems at all crimped or reduced in diameter from the removed ferrule, then pick somewhere else. Also heed Purdy's warning about how much you leave proud of the ferrule.
And yea, the thread for the ferrule is 1/2-20 but I don't think it's anything Ford special. And like you I didn't like the thought of the ferrule attached to the compression nut. Although mine seems to work - so far.
Or you can do the shadetree dodge and wrap the tube with string and use the compression nut to compress the string and make a seal.
But not recommended...
Joe K
BILL WILLIAMSON
Well-known member
The nut does NOT have a pronounced taper to accept the ferrule. Just a smooth ridge to push against the ferrule, as the "sealing" is accomplished where the ferrule seats in the sediment bowl/carb. If you ever have a rough seat in the sediment bowl/carb, take a piece of old tubing with a ferrule attached, dab valve grinding on the ferrule, stick it in and turn it back & forth to smooth the seat, like: 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 106----------You know what I mean!
Someone stated awhile back that on the attached type fitting, he stuck a 1/4" drill bit shank in the ferrule, snapped it off & installed it in the usual manner. Vaseline's good for more than one thing!! puttin' some on the ferrule helps it "squuuueze" to the tube easier. When you're first puttin' a new ferrule, tighten until it "feels" tight, then use a tubing wrench at 3:00 position, push down with straight arm, using body weight, and you'll feel it "give as the ferrule "squeezes" onto the tube, gotta' look like a wedding ring on a fat man's finger!
I type slooooow, I hope I don't have to ever type all this again. (just use search!) At least I've learned how to spell FERRULE correctly!
Some have resorted to soldering ferrules to the line. This is sometimes need on an original line that has a "lap" seam from original manufacturing methods, instead of a "butt" seam that was used later. Bill W.
Someone stated awhile back that on the attached type fitting, he stuck a 1/4" drill bit shank in the ferrule, snapped it off & installed it in the usual manner. Vaseline's good for more than one thing!! puttin' some on the ferrule helps it "squuuueze" to the tube easier. When you're first puttin' a new ferrule, tighten until it "feels" tight, then use a tubing wrench at 3:00 position, push down with straight arm, using body weight, and you'll feel it "give as the ferrule "squeezes" onto the tube, gotta' look like a wedding ring on a fat man's finger!
I type slooooow, I hope I don't have to ever type all this again. (just use search!) At least I've learned how to spell FERRULE correctly!
Some have resorted to soldering ferrules to the line. This is sometimes need on an original line that has a "lap" seam from original manufacturing methods, instead of a "butt" seam that was used later. Bill W.
Jazzjr
Senior Member
Why don't you order a New Line part # A-9240-B fits 28-some 31's for $5.25 Probaly you old one is bent anyways. Here is a link to the Lines, ferrulels and or nuts
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/search.php?q=fuel+line&x=95&y=5
Gas Line
Goes from sediment bulb on firewall down to the carb. This is a plated steel line with brass fittings, not for late 31's. U.S.A.
Gas Line Fitting
Brass gas line fittings like the originals. When you tighten it up, the ferrule will snap on the fitting. U.S.A. Part # A-9243 $ 1.35 each. I keep a couple of Spare Fittings
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/search.php?q=fuel+line&x=95&y=5
Gas Line
Goes from sediment bulb on firewall down to the carb. This is a plated steel line with brass fittings, not for late 31's. U.S.A.
Gas Line Fitting
Brass gas line fittings like the originals. When you tighten it up, the ferrule will snap on the fitting. U.S.A. Part # A-9243 $ 1.35 each. I keep a couple of Spare Fittings
BILL WILLIAMSON
Well-known member
Yep! that's it! The only thing different is that the ferrule's attached so's you don't lose 'afore you get the danged thing +*%&$# squeezed on the line!Why don't you order a New Line part # A-9240-B fits 28-some 31's for $5.25 Probaly you old one is bent anyways. Here is a link to the Lines, ferrulels and or nuts
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/search.php?q=fuel+line&x=95&y=5
Gas Line
Goes from sediment bulb on firewall down to the carb. This is a plated steel line with brass fittings, not for late 31's. U.S.A.
Gas Line Fitting
Brass gas line fittings like the originals. When you tighten it up, the ferrule will snap on the fitting. U.S.A. Part # A-9243 $ 1.35 each. I keep a couple of Spare Fittings
Somebody else mentioned string. Chief taught me that in an emergency, wind your own ferrule out of string. Lookin' at the end of the tube, wind it counter-clockwise so it doesn't "unwind" when the nut is screwed in! GOT THAT?? Bill W.