Headers help!

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Solo_909

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Hey fellas,

So my exhaust is all rusted out and the manifold is leaking from the cross bar so I want to upgrade. I have 35 coupe with a 37 flathead and 37-39 ford steering box.

I was told to call Reds but they said they didn’t have anything that would fit my application.

Who else has a good lead on headers that will fit with the upgrades?

Thanks!
 
I doubt that you will find anything pre-made that will work, unmodified.

For $130 from Speedway and a good old school muffler shop, Speedway (or Reds) can probably can be made to work. Had to shim the motor mounts on my '41 about 1/4" with thick washers and longer motor mount bolts. There was a bit of grinding. The muffler shop welded on flanges to connect to the head pipes and flattened the head pipe a bit to clear the fully depressed clutch.

For installation clearance, use bolts, not studs to attach to the block. Remember that the front exhaust port takes a larger size bolt than the center and rear ports.
 
There is a guy in Va that builds flatty headers & advertises on here .
House of Havlar I believe
I have his card in my shop , great guy!
Cheers
 
I had a '36 coupe with a '37 steering box and an 8BA. I put a set of Fentons on it. I raised the engine a bit and did a liitle grinding (on both the steering and headers IIRC) and everything worked out fine.
 
Check with "House of Fab". This is the guy that Tony, (KiWinUS) mentioned. These are advertised for an AV8, but maybe he can make something for your needs.

I'm wondering why Reds doesn't have something that will work in your 35 coupe?? Two years ago I bought his headers and a complete dual exhaust system from him that is going on either my 35 3w or my 35 5w with 36 LB engine and 37-39 steering box.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225153&highlight=House+fab
 
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Would there be much of a difference between coupe and pickup? I have them on mine with a 37 engine and a 39 steering box. There have been some mods but not to the headers .. I'd have to check to see where and how..
 
JM 35 Sedan said:
Check with "House of Fab". This is the guy that Tony, (KiWinUS) mentioned. These are advertised for an AV8, but maybe he can make something for your needs.

I'm wondering why Reds doesn't have something that will work in your 35 coupe?? Two years ago I bought his headers and a complete dual exhaust system from him that is going on either my 35 3w or my 35 5w with 36 LB engine and 37-39 steering box.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225153&highlight=House+fab
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Yeah no idea. Everyone was telling me to call them and then the guy said they didn’t have anything for my set up. My set up is fairly common I feel so who knows. I’ll check out that other person though. Thanks!
 
Talkwrench said:
Would there be much of a difference between coupe and pickup? I have them on mine with a 37 engine and a 39 steering box. There have been some mods but not to the headers .. I'd have to check to see where and how..
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I have no idea if they are different. What mods do you mean?
 
The guy from "House of Fabrication" just contacted me today on the H.A.M.B. Here is his contact information :


Dave Havlir
Havlir House of Fabrication
Ashland, Va 23005
(804) 245 1959
 
For a while Red's was having problems with where they had their headers welded up. Not sure if they have that solved yet, but could be part of the issue.
 
I used the Speedway headers designed for the 35-40 Ford that clears the Vega steering box. My '40 is stock with the stock steering and they worked just fine. Should also work with your application on the '35.
 
tubman said:
The guy from "House of Fabrication" just contacted me today on the H.A.M.B. Here is his contact information :


Dave Havlir
Havlir House of Fabrication
Ashland, Va 23005
(804) 245 1959
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Thank you! He’s a little out of my price range though.
 
Here are the Red's headers for my 36 with a 37 engine. Ed
 

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So Reds ended up calling me back and said they reached out to a couple customers that had my set up and they mentioned it worked.

I ended up going with Reds headers, extension tubes, gaskets, and hangers. Hopefully it works out.

I’ll be posting a video once everything is installed. Thanks guys
 
I think you should be right... My pics would only be the same as Ed's. Come very close to the starter motor lead bolt / attachment .
 
I've just fitted headers to my 21 stud motor in my 36 cabriolet.I have fitted a 37 steering box also.On the drivers side I cut the end off the outlet pipe of the header and welded a bend on it angled towards the opening in the X member at a better angle.At first I made up the system without modifying the header which put the pipe under the X member and then back upwards to run at normal hight but then realised that the clutch pedal hit the pipe on full travel and when I put the car back on the floor the wishbone hit it from the underside due to having a lowered spring fitted.I now have clearance all around.I also needed to knock a slight dimple into the middle branch of the header to adequately clear the steering box.

These are the headers I used....I think they might be Speedway but cannot be sure.
 

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One thing to think about is to modify the ends of the headers (to direct the flow) and to weld 2-bolt flanges onto the ends - such that you can bolt-up the extension pipes to the mufflers.

I have no idea why Sandy Belond and everybody else makes these headers with a 'slip fit' type of connector - as they always leak and if you actually tighten the slip-fit enough to prevent leaks, then you can never get them to 'slip off'. It appears to me that Belond "did it this way" - so everybody since has copied him . . . nobody does this on any other set of automotive headers.

I made these modifications on my last set of custom headers for my 32 Cab (see below) - (they originated with Havlir) - though I've also done it on original Belonds, and would do it on anything I put on. It takes a bit of time and you may want to modify the ends of the headers with 90 degree 'turn-downs' (whatever you need to direct the flow).

I've found no rhyme or reason for where most of the headers dump the exhaust (especially on the driver's side) - in many cases the outlets align with absolutely NOTHING in the frame - so you end up going through all sorts of ugly "muffler shop" gyrations trying to get a decent looking exhaust system - one that can be easily removed/serviced. Usually you end up with ugly muffler shop bends and routings that are less than optimal.

Take the time to modify them on the front end, then have them ceramic coated - THEN go to the muffler shop.

Note: I put EGT bungs in these and 02 bungs in the tail pipes - I use this for Stromberg carb tuning.

Also, I'm running straight pipes out the side on this engine - and YES, it is loud . . . just the way I want it. LOL

Good luck,
B&S

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Driver's Side - nice and clean, out of the way of everything - stock steering, stock mechanical brakes, etc..

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You can see the O2 bung here - with a plug in it:

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