Ford V3000s

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v3000s

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I am new here I own and restore German WW2 military vehicles, I have recently completed restoration on a 1944 German Ford V3000s.
The link below is a recent run out in Kent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CTpcmezdQ4

Some pictures
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It's a 3.5 ton payload, with a 24 stud flatty, it has a rather unusual gearbox as it is a 5 speed box, the Germans used what's known as a "Gelande" (off road) gear to cope with the Russian mud - and I can vouch for its effectiveness! Then 4 forward gears she runs comfortably at 50 mph in fourth. Stromberg 97 carb and a rear mounted Bosch dizzy.
 
Sealed beams?

Maybe the German military production hadn't kept pace with USA civilian product development in the 39-41 period.

Not everything in the US was available worldwide. There was a war on.

Mart.
 
47Merc said:
"a rear mounted Bosch dizzy" Whats that? Can we have a picture of it. Please.
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The Bosch dizzy is a Bosch distribitor. It was located in a boss on the left side of the block, similar to those of the french blocks.
This is a G29T engine that was installed in the 1948 - 1954 Ford Rhein. Those engines were produced in Cologne Ford plant. It is similar to the G398T engine of the V3000S (1943-1948). The V3000S was the first truck that rolled of the assembly line in Cologne after the war hadd ended. Most of those trucks where build for the Allies until 1948. The G398T had 95hp, while the G29T had either 90 or 95HP. Carb was a Solex30PAAJ.
 

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Some pictures of the engine bay you can see the Dizzy (Distributor) top right of the two images, the third one is the Typenschild (Data Plate)
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Just to add a little to miwi's post the V3000s was produced from 1941 although from 1943 to the war's end the front end design changed to accommodate the larger radiator as the earlier type was prone to overheating at the same time the wheel arches were also changed to the flat version as on my truck whilst the earlier version had a more bulbous American style wing. the French Ford plant at Poissey near Paris also produced a version of this vehicle (F198T) which was almost identical to the Cologne model but the cab was six inches wider the engine's all used the diving helmet type distributor. In addition to this Poissey also produced a halftrack Maultier (Mule) version.

As for sealed beams all the electrics were Bosch German produced, another quirk is that all the threads and bolt sizes on the German and French engines are metric!

Thanks for the compliments chaps. I will take some specific pictures of the Dizzy for you.
 
Are you sure about the metric threads?

I have had German and have French motors and 99% of the threads are SAE, normally UNC. One or two exceptions, the exhaust manifold studs on the french motors are unc one end, metric fine the other.

Did they go metric during the war due to lack of sae tooling? And revert after? My German motor was post WW2.

Dunno.

Mart.
 
Its an interesting question and one which I cant claim to be able to answer with any degree of authority. The engine in my Ford is not the original engine although its is definitely a wartime unit, that said everything that I have worked on, starter motor, exhaust manifolds, brakes, carb, dizzy and fuel pump are metric, shortly after I acquired the Ford the dynamo packed up so I purchased a Power Master alternator form the States the one that looks just like the dynamo. When I came to fit it the original bolts were no use as they were metric so I had to re tap the thread to take the metric bolts. A friend of mine has a Poissey built F198t and the engine on that is also metric. To the best of my knowledge all European engine and vehicle manufacture was and is Metric, the exception being us Brits who use good ole AF.
 
The French SUMB truck engines were manufactured later on and had a lot of Unified threads but not all were as Mart mentioned. I think Simca Unic Marmon Bocquet may have done this for NATO supply purposes but I just don't know for certain.
 
Some of the threads on the peripheral items were metric, but as I was using the motors in cars I discarded all that stuff. All the things like head bolts, inlet manifold and big end studs were UNC.

I have those German water pumps on the French motor in my roadster. I got rebuild kits from Hamber Flatordead in Germany.

Mart.
 
v3000s said:
Its an interesting question and one which I cant claim to be able to answer with any degree of authority. The engine in my Ford is not the original engine although its is definitely a wartime unit, that said everything that I have worked on, starter motor, exhaust manifolds, brakes, carb, dizzy and fuel pump are metric, shortly after I acquired the Ford the dynamo packed up so I purchased a Power Master alternator form the States the one that looks just like the dynamo. When I came to fit it the original bolts were no use as they were metric so I had to re tap the thread to take the metric bolts. A friend of mine has a Poissey built F198t and the engine on that is also metric. To the best of my knowledge all European engine and vehicle manufacture was and is Metric, the exception being us Brits who use good ole AF.
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My two French Flatheads (3.9l & 4.2l) have allover UNC or UNF except the bolt to fix the dizzy and the header studs on block side it is UNC on header site it is metric. Don't ask me why but that is original. Stupid french!:D
 
miwi said:
The Bosch dizzy is a Bosch distribitor. It was located in a boss on the left side of the block, similar to those of the french blocks.
This is a G29T engine that was installed in the 1948 - 1954 Ford Rhein. Those engines were produced in Cologne Ford plant. It is similar to the G398T engine of the V3000S (1943-1948). The V3000S was the first truck that rolled of the assembly line in Cologne after the war hadd ended. Most of those trucks where build for the Allies until 1948. The G398T had 95hp, while the G29T had either 90 or 95HP. Carb was a Solex30PAAJ.
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The engine pictured here, appears to have a Rochester model B single barrel carburetor.

Sal
 
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